full-disclosure - Re: [SCADASEC] 11. Re: SCADA Security

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Message-Id: <20090222172818.3C1D11A003A@smtp.hushmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:28:17 -0500
From: bobby.mugabe@...hmail.com
To: pentesterkunt@...il.com, valdis.kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, scadasec@...s.infracritical.com
Subject: Re: [SCADASEC] 11. Re: SCADA Security - Software
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Mr. Kletnieks,

This list's lack of usual moderation does not mean your opinion is
either respected, welcomed, or desired by anyone.  Like my father
always says, "Give a nigger a podium and he'll rap for anyone.
Give a white man a podium and he'll beat his chest like a primate
and spew mindless propaganda to anyone that will listen with the
hope that the senseless banter will impress those less intelligent
than he."

And you, my friend, are not black.

- -bm

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:30:01 -0500 Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:29 EST, Smoking Gun said:
>
>> Ironically, your own quote"company"quote offered penetration
>testing
>> services at the insane pricing scheme of "we'll pentest0r joo
>for free
>> and if we find something you can pay us to find other holes!".
>
>And how, exactly, is that an "insane" pricing scheme?  If you
>think about
>it for a bit, it actually makes quite a bit of sense - Snosoft
>needs to prove
>they're in fact good enough to be able to find the holes you're
>paying them
>to find, or it doesn't cost anything.
>
>That *sure* as hell beats paying $100K for a pen test, and then
>finding out
>that you hired a bunch of asswipes who can't find holes.
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