Message-ID: <5e9568cb0903241234p215e35cdm4b1fe5e35a597e05@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:34:32 -0400
From: Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: nVidia.com [Url Redirection flaw]

I am only stating that the bug posted here isn't serious. I agree with you
on the other issues, more or less anyways.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:30 PM, <mac.user@....hush.com> wrote:

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> nvidia has a poor track record with security.  I'm citing two
> examples.  One is on their website, and one is in their drivers.
> Can you cite anything they have done right?  Your effective arguing
> strategies makes you a top nominee for Gadi Evron's no-swearing
> event at defcon.
>
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:27:09 -0400 Rubén Camarero
> <rjcamarero@...il.com> wrote:
> >That example has nothing to do with this particular bug. Using
> >multiple
> >exclamation or question marks does not help your ineffective
> >argument,
> >either.
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM, <mac.user@....hush.com> wrote:
> >
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> >> With all due respect, my corned beef and sauerkraut smelling
> >> friend, I am simply pointing out that when it comes to security
> >> nvidia is clueless.  Do you not remember the great debacle of
> >2006
> >> when Rapid7 showed off remote kernel exploitation of the nvidia
> >> driver by webbrowser?  http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228 should
> >> refresh your memory.  40 million lost credit cards but at least
> >> they put nvidia in their rightful place and have their
> >priorities
> >> in order.  And speaking of security concerns and nvidia, why do
> >you
> >> think Microsoft didn't use nvidia in their trusted gaming
> >platform
> >> xbox360????  Everyone in our industry knows that nvidia is shit
> >for
> >> security, even their javascript sucks!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:45:46 -0400 Rubén Camarero
> >> <rjcamarero@...il.com> wrote:
> >> >If ATI and nVidia were web content developers, this may be a
> >valid
> >> >argument,
> >> >but they are not. They are graphics vendors, hardware and
> >> >software. Not to
> >> >mention the fact that this isn't a "serious" issue. RFI is a
> >> >serious issue,
> >> >IMHO.
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM, <mac.user@....hush.com> wrote:
> >> >
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> >> >> I have been saying for years that ATI is better than nvidia
> >and
> >> >> here is just one more reason!  You don't see serious issues
> >like
> >> >> this with ATI's website.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:13:21 -0400 Lorenzo Vogelsang
> >> >> <vogelsang.lorenzo@...il.com> wrote:
> >> >> >Hi all, i'm new to the list. I'm an italian student who
> >likes
> >> >> >security
> >> >> >topics in the I.C.T world..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Browsing the nVdia web sites, i have found a very basic Url
> >> >> >redirection
> >> >> >flaw. Infact when downloading a driver i get Urls like this:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>>http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload/download_confirmatio
> >n
> >> >.
> >> >>
> >>
> >>>asp?kw=&url=http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/179.48/179.48_n
> >o
> >> >t
> >> >> >ebook_winxp_64bit_beta.exe
> >> >> >
> >> >> >and connecting to this another Url
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>>http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload/download_confirmatio
> >n
> >> >.
> >> >> >asp?kw=&url=http://www.google.it
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >will redirects succefully to www.google.it! (or other web
> >site
> >> >of
> >> >> >your
> >> >> >choice , or downloadble content..)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Enjoy!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Lorenzo Vogelsang.
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