Message-ID: <545c35ac0903251454y5924f332r20d704b9a6e05a7c@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:54:23 +0100
From: Lorenzo Vogelsang <vogelsang.lorenzo@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Fwd:  nVidia.com [Url Redirection flaw]

I don't know if this bug it's a "serious one" or not, i only posted a "url
redirection flaw" and i think that its dangerousness and importance should
be inferred from the type of vulnerability and the site which is affected...
I am still a beginner in the field of security , i still have much to
learn.. Neverthless i think that the open redirect vulnerabilty it's
serious, because "This vulnerability is used in phishing attacks to get
users to visit malicious sites without realizing it." (
http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Open_redirect) , this flaw increase its
dangerousness if the site it's trusted and , IMHO, i think tha nVidia ( it
is better or worse than ati i don't know ) is trusted and can easily used by
an attacker or a phisher to spread malicous software or to take similar
actions. Moreover with Xss flaw the open redirect become more serious!
(always IMHO)
However the admin was alerted, so i've done my job....

Regards

Lorenzo Vogelsang


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Date: 2009/3/25
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] nVidia.com [Url Redirection flaw]
To: vogelsang.lorenzo@...il.com, valdis.kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk


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What is this field you brag experience in?  Independent
Professional Open URL Redirection Vulnerability Reporting?  Can you
cite any of these statistics you're talking about because to be
quite honest we think you're making this up, along with everything
else.  Linking to some actual statistics will improve your full-
disclosure credibility greatly.  How did you determine the 50/50
probability or is that just based up on made-up numbers as well?  I
thought Len Rose removed all the trolls from this list, why are you
still here?

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:00:27 -0400 Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:21:42 BST, Lorenzo Vogelsang said:
>> Despite i've told to nvidia only the "url redirection"  flaw i
>think
>> that, if "url redirection" will be solved all the xss inherently
>> vulnerabilites will be solved too.
>
>Actual experience in the field has shown that in general, if you
>report a URL
>redirection issue to the maintainers of a website, a large
>percentage of the
>time they will *only* fix the problem with URL redirection, unless
>you make it
>clear to them *and they understand* that the URL redirection is
>only one
>symptom of a larger XSS issue.
>
>I'll give it a 50-50 chance that somebody will get to send NVidia
>an email
>saying "Good, you fixed the URL problem.  Now about that XSS...."
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