full-disclosure - Re: can someone please try and explain to me....

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Message-Id: <2F29CED5-FB9D-4DCF-B175-B6181DB0466E@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:06:58 -0400
From: J Michael Graham <jmgraham@...il.com>
To: "foofus@...fus.net" <foofus@...fus.net>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: can someone please try and explain to me....

Man, I LOVE sayin it. I say it all the time. Boss comes in talking  
about budget cuts, I just stand up shouting "CYBERWAR!!" and he backs  
out the doorway. Mission accomplished.

On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:56, foofus@...fus.net wrote:

>> Why people call this so-called Korea DDoS a cyber war? Don't people  
>> know
>> how the Internet works yet?
>
> The problem isn't that people fail to understand how the Internet  
> works
> (they do fail at this, but that's not the problem).  The problem is  
> how
> exciting it is to use terms like "cyberwar."  In the words of a  
> prominent
> researcher:
>
>   if [people shouting "cyberwar"] want to be taken seriously, they  
> need
>   to start releasing proof to the mailing lists and name specific
>   intelligence agency's who are conducting the Cyberwar. I don't think
>   there is a cyberwar, there will be intelligencers probing the  
> networks
>   for secrets, thats not a cyberwar. Cyberwar is something completely
>   different [...] Cyberwar *could* be real, *look at this*. Although
>   the truth is, we haven't seen a Cyberwar yet, it's still in the
>   imaginary dream book stage.
>
> Regardless of one's understanding of the Internet, getting to say  
> "cyberwar"
> is just too tempting for lots of people to resist.
>
> --Foofus.
>
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