full-disclosure - Re: AntiAntiSec / Endgame

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Message-ID: <dde81da30907121752g71de154t948ad7eac307b0b6@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:52:29 -0500
From: opt opt <opternaut@...il.com>
To: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: AntiAntiSec / Endgame

The Disclosure War Continues.

Dear Paul,

Our individual security does not only pertain to what we control, but
what other's control as well. Also, the information we use to protect
our slice of the internet is disseminated by a community. So it's not
really nomadic at all, as you imply.

However, this is how anti-sec would like it to be. Any hacker who
would advocate discretion of discovery should consider the fact they
too, in this system, will miss out on possibly novel or innovative new
research. This seems to oppose hacking as well as progression, and
instead reveal a very immature desire to control an environment which
thrives on change.

Now to relieve any cramping you may have from reading a post with such
serious undertones, feast your eyes on this: http://tinyurl.com/ncksbj

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Paul Schmehl<pschmehl_lists@...rr.com> wrote:
> --On July 12, 2009 3:47:12 PM -0500 mod-raver@...hmail.com wrote:
>>
>> There is not even a bit of logic out there..believe me!
>> I suggest you to visit the anti-sec blog and read there their
>> statements.
>>
>> Here something from the anti-sec blog:
>> ''A secure Internet is an Internet without freedom, without
>> privacy, and without anonymity.....Sadly, the political systems of
>> the first world have been perverted by an evil which ensures that
>> none who do not share its nature hold office.''
>>
>> They want the total internet anarchy and personally i believe these
>> guys they lost it.
>>
>
> The internet isn't something you secure.  You secure that which you can
> control.  You leave the rest up to others who have control over their
> part.  And you block or blacklist those you choose not to connect to
> because of their lack of security.  So the anti-sec bozos are free to be
> as insecure as they want to be and to exercise their freedom, privacy and
> anonymity in their world.
>
> Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
> obvious, my opinions are my own
> and not those of my employer.
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