full-disclosure - Re: Mr. Magorium's Wunderbar Emporium

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Message-ID: <36881.1250404990@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:43:10 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: security curmudgeon <jericho@...rition.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, dailydave@...ts.immunitysec.com
Subject: Re: Mr. Magorium's Wunderbar Emporium

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:07:53 -0000, security curmudgeon said:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> : Of course, getting a CVE for that issue would have forced disclosure of 
> : the bug too, quite possibly before the vendors were ready to ship 
> 
> Huh? Apparently you don't know how CVE assignment works.
> 
> If you request one from CVE, they can assign one without knowing any 
> details of the vulnerability. CVE will embargo the details until the 
> researcher and/or vendor are ready. I assume the Candidate Numbering 
> Authorities would be able to do the same, but going to Red Hat, Debian or 
> Ubuntu in this case may not be the best option.

Yes, but to make the CVE actually *useful*, they need to eventually release
it.  Sure, I may have 5 or 10 CAN in my pocket - and I can even wave around
CAN-2009-3439 and say 'Death of Internet Predicted'.  But for the CAN/CVE
to be *useful*, it needs to be disclosed.

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