full-disclosure - Re: Nipper licensing

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Message-Id: <200909021606.05509.fizz@titania.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:06:05 +0100
From: Fizz <fizz@...ania.co.uk>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Nipper licensing

No, since the Nipper 0.11.x release series Nipper has included commercial use 
clauses in its license.

On Wednesday 02 September 2009 12:32:46 dpcybuck@...il.com wrote:
> Um...so what I think I am hearing is that all versions less than 1.0,
> including 0.12.6 are not commercial, right?
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fizz <fizz@...ania.co.uk>
>
> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:16:31
> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Nipper licensing
>
>
> It has cost me a *LOT* of money to develop Nipper. Network devices are very
> expensive as I am sure everyone knows. It also took me a *LOT* of time to
> develop Nipper. It is also true that a lot of companies use Nipper to to
> make money, such as auditing companies and internal IT departments.
>
> During that time only 1 person has ever seen the need to donate to the
> project, even though it makes money for a *LOT* of businesses.
>
> Nipper has had commercial licensing exclusions for a little while now.
> Version 1 is now released as a full commercial version. This means that
> companies who benefit from using Nipper will now have to pay a licence fee.
> This fee will enable the purchase of more expensive network devices and
> further improve Nipper.
>
> NOTE: Home users will be able to continue to use Nipper for free.
>
> Nipper is a complex program that supports almost 30 devices in its present
> release. Nipper 1 has almost twice the number of code lines from the
> previous version and over triple that of the one before. It is not a simple
> grep of a configuration file and it audits a huge number of different
> settings and protocols.
>
> Ian Ventura-Whiting
>
> On Wednesday 02 September 2009 10:48:42 Eric Sesterhenn wrote:
> > * BMF (badmotherfsckr@...il.com) wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Alan Buxey <A.L.M.Buxey@...ro.ac.uk>
>
> wrote:
> > > > ouch. a couple of years ago we had some home-brew code doing the job.
> > > > Nipper
> > > > came along...was free..and did everything we did + a little more.
> > > >
> > > > but now it looks like we'll be picking up our old Perl code and
> > > > fixing it up
> > > > to do everything that Nipper does - and a little more.
> > >
> > > Was Nipper not available as source and licensed so it could be forked
> > > in an event such as this? If not, consider it an object lesson in free
> > > as in beer vs free as in speech.
> >
> > LICENSE file for nipper-cli 0.12.0 and libnipper 0.12.6 states:
> >
> > THIS IS IMPORTANT:
> >
> > libNipper and all other Nipper products are licensed under the GPL
> > version 3 with the following exceptions.
> >
> > 1. The code cannot be used as part of a commercial product. A commercial
> >    license can be arranged for the integration of Nipper with a
> > commercial product. Contact fizz@...ania.co.uk for commercial licensing
> > information.
> >
> > 2. Any code that integrates Nipper MUST display the following copyright
> >    information with the programs own copyright information:
> >
> >    Nipper Copyright (C) 2006 - 2008 by Ian Ventura-Whiting
> >
> >    In order to maintain the latest copyright information for each
> > libNipper release, this information can be extracted using the API.
> >
> >
> > Nipper is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY
> > WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS
> > FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License v3 (below)
> > for more details.
> >
> > Regards, Eric
> >
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