full-disclosure - Re: Dumb question: Is Windows box behind a router safe ?

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:20:07 -0600
From: Chris <r0ck@...ramail.com>
To: "john s" <rwnin.security@...il.com>,
	"G. D. Fuego" <gdfuego@...il.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Dumb question: Is Windows box behind a router
 safe ?

Seriously?  This is some home user who has nary a clue about how to use Automatic Updates...and you want to teach him about egress filtering?

I'd rather hear about n3td3v or whatever the fuck his name is.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john s" <rwnin.security@...il.com>
> To: "G. D. Fuego" <gdfuego@...il.com>
> Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Dumb question: Is Windows box behind a router	safe ?
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:15:20 -0500
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM, G. D. Fuego <gdfuego@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:18 PM, john s <rwnin.security@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM, G. D. Fuego <gdfuego@...il.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Steven Anders <anderstev@...il.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have always thought that having a computer behind the router
> >>>> (since router has firewall) is generally safe, but I would love to
> >>>> hear insights or thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> Nope.  A firewall should protect you against inbound connection
> >>> attempts only.
> >>>
> >>
> >> A well configured firewall segregates and monitors ingress and egress
> >> traffic on a network segment.  Controlling outbound connectivity
> >> doesn't stop internal host app-level exploitation, but it can mitigate
> >> post-exploit damages and can also possibly provide an alert to the
> >> compromise...
> >
> > How many home users do you know with egress filtering enabled?
> >
> 
> Is this a security mailing list? ;)
> 
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