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Message-ID: <351C1CDE56CA1FA6D2AC3502@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:30:25 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com> To: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk> Subject: Re: How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street --On Tuesday, November 03, 2009 22:52:28 -0600 Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:13:24 CST, Paul Schmehl said: >> Of course, without a warrant they can't wiretap anything. Furthermore >> every warrant to wiretap has to be accompanied by evidence that justifies >> the warrant and signed by a federal judge who agrees that there is >> sufficient cause for the wiretap, and illegal wiretaps will not only get >> your case thrown out of court but your butt thrown in jail as well. > > You're new here, aren't you? :) > > We're talking here about the FBI, which has had problems with their abuse > of surveillance from J Edgar Hoover's early years up to the recent problems > with abuses of NSLs. And you expect us to believe they'll toe the line > when using this surveillance ability? > No, nor did I state that. I said that illegal wiretapping will get thrown out of court and the perpetrators jailed. That's a separate issue from whether or not agents will all act within the law. > Oh, and how much time did J Edgar spend in jail for his illegal wiretaps? > And how much time will anybody spend in jail for the NSL abuses? Depends on whether anyone decides to prosecute. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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