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Message-ID: <16583.1257310348@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:52:28 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:13:24 CST, Paul Schmehl said:
> Of course, without a warrant they can't wiretap anything.  Furthermore 
> every warrant to wiretap has to be accompanied by evidence that justifies 
> the warrant and signed by a federal judge who agrees that there is 
> sufficient cause for the wiretap, and illegal wiretaps will not only get 
> your case thrown out of court but your butt thrown in jail as well.

You're new here, aren't you? :)

We're talking here about the FBI, which has had problems with their abuse
of surveillance from J Edgar Hoover's early years up to the recent problems
with abuses of NSLs.  And you expect us to believe they'll toe the line
when using this surveillance ability?

Oh, and how much time did J Edgar spend in jail for his illegal wiretaps?
And how much time will anybody spend in jail for the NSL abuses?

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