Message-ID: <4B0540D0.5030007@fcdl-sc.org.br>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:57:52 -0200
From: Leandro Quibem Magnabosco <leandro.magnabosco@...l-sc.org.br>
To: kaibelf <jdl@....hush.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Impersonation is a against the law.

STOP THAT BULLSHIT!

It's not funny anymore.

kaibelf escreveu:
> List,
>
> It has come to my attention that my client is being impersonated.
>
> Securityfocus slandered n3td3v in 2006 causing him to drop out of 
> university.
>
> n3td3v hasn't been the same health wise since he was targeted by 
> Securityfocus and HackerFactor.
>
> n3td3v has had breakdowns from being accused of being a troll or 
> accused of being involved with trolls.
>
> It was hurtful for n3td3v to be labelled a "security troll" after 
> his years of dedication to fighting cybercrime and reporting 
> intelligence to vendors.
>
> It's also been hurtful that individual users of Full-disclosure 
> mailing list have targeted him in calling him a troll, everything 
> n3td3v has said is sincere and is nothing to do with trolling.
>
> n3td3v was wrongfully banned from Full-disclosure mailing list 
> after anonymous users decided to write emails with false truths 
> about n3td3v, to upset n3td3v to get a reaction out of him.
>
> There is now a problem with people pretending to be n3td3v and 
> pretending to be speaking on behalf of him, this is a really 
> damaging situation for n3td3v.
>
> n3td3v has been unable to share his home grown computer skills with 
> anyone due to the personal attacks which have affected his personal 
> life.
>
> n3td3v began in 1999 where he learnt how hackers worked and learned 
> the tools of the trade, he quickly used his knowledge to pass 
> useful information to yahoo about folks who were trying to 
> compromise them.
>
> n3td3v went onto Full-disclosure mailing list after a fall out with 
> a Yahoo engineer who had used n3td3v's information about hackers to 
> get further up the corporate ladder at yahoo.
>
> n3td3v left Full-disclosure mailing list in 2006 to gain official 
> qualifications at university, and by October Securityfocus and 
> HackerFactor wrongfully post slander about n3td3v.
>
> n3td3v began to think he was being followed in real life such was 
> the psychological impact of a good guy being talked about as a bad 
> guy by Securityfocus.
>
> n3td3v couldn't take the pressure anymore and dropped out of the 
> university course which would have made him a security professional.
>
> It was n3td3v's only chance to get a career in information 
> security, now ruined by the folks from Securityfocus, HackerFactor 
> and individuals from Full-disclosure mailing list.
>
> n3td3v returned to Full-disclosure mailing list after dropping out 
> of university to try and clear his name but was set upon by 
> anonymous users who claimed the n3td3v group was fake.
>
> The list administrator of Full-disclosure mailing list took sides 
> with the anonymous users who were claiming n3td3v was a troll and a 
> liar, the list administrator publicly addressed n3td3v and banned 
> him.
>
> After n3td3v was banned from Full-disclosure mailing list in 2009, 
> anonymous users started to impersonate him, and claim they were 
> speaking on behalf of him to further damage his reputation.
>
> In 2009 n3td3v deleted the n3td3v group (the mailing list for the 
> n3td3v group on Google Groups) as the personal attacks continued to 
> plague his integrity.
>
> n3td3v remains unemployed as of 2009 and is still suffering 
> psychological problems socially and is unable to lead a normal life.
>
> n3td3v is unable to work due to lack of official qualifications and 
> the personal problems he has due to the personal attacks placed 
> upon him, n3td3v however without official qualifications is a very 
> capable candidate for a future role in the information security 
> industry.
>
> It's a sad case, let's hope in future we don't treat our young 
> people in a way that they can't shine to show their talents.
>
> Stop Cyberbullying
> http://www.stopcyberbullying.org/
>
> What is Cyberbullying
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/YoungPeople/HealthAndRelationships/Bully
> ing/DG_070501
>
> Laugh at it and you're part of it
> http://yp.direct.gov.uk/cyberbullying/
>
> Wikipedia entry on Cyber-bullying
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-bullying
>
> False statements made by Securityfocus
> http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11419
>
> False statements made by HackerFactor
> http://www.hackerfactor.com/papers/who_is_n3td3v.pdf
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
>
> About Andrew Wallace:
>
> Q: How did you get into Cyber Security?
> A: From 1999 I learned knowledge on how hackers operate and the 
> tools of the trade, soon I had learned enough to start passing 
> useful information to Yahoo security representatives on hackers who 
> were trying to compromise them.
>
> Q: Why did you start the n3td3v Google Groups group?
> A: From 2004 I started the n3td3v group to act as a central hub for 
> open source intelligence items.
>
> Q: I invited people from the Full-disclosure mailing list to 
> utilize the information.
> A: It worked pretty well with the user interface, I ended the group 
> 2009 as it was unclear who it was providing open source 
> intelligence to.
>
> Q: Who were the subcribers of the group?
> A: The group was pretty mixed, I had folks from the private and 
> public sector on there, pretty much a cross section of the security 
> community.
>
> Q: Are you a hacker or security researcher?
> A: I would say I was a security researcher, although I do pose as a 
> hacker sometimes to get information out of people.
>
> Q: Was that the reasoning behind calling yourself n3td3v?
> A: Pretty much, it was used in the beginning days to get 
> information out of folks by posing as a hacker. The name caught on, 
> and decided to stick with it to name the Google Groups group with.
>
> Q: What are you up to these days?
> A: I've moved on with my interest. I would like to get into a 
> national security role now as a natural progression of what I've 
> been doing the whole time.
>
> Q: Have you been approached for a job in national security?
> A: Not so far, although you never know what might happen in the 
> future.
>
> Q: Did you enjoy the bad press from SecurityFocus?
> A: That was pretty much out of order what happened, I don't know 
> the reasoning behind what they did.
>    I guess SecurityFocus were interested in me, so wanted to know 
> more about me.
>
>
> Andrew Wallace, MI7, iJTTF
> Royal Antisec -/- n3td3v intelli 
>
> Undergound websites:
> http://www.twitter.com/n3td3v
> http://sites.google.com/site/n3td3v
> http://n3td3v.blogspot.com
> http://www.cnet.com/profile/n3td3v/ - Cyber intelligence comments
>
> if u r from the British Government I amlooking for jobs in national 
> security:
>  xploitable@...il.com andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com
>
>
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