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Message-ID: <6450e99d0911301621x4de05c18i7a6ee30a4ab65add@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:21:16 +1100 From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com> To: Rohit Patnaik <quanticle@...il.com> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: Software developer looks at CRU code just ask Al of the Gore about his carbon trading exchange he setup with Ken Lay of Enron fame as advisor... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjHAB62xKXI On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Rohit Patnaik <quanticle@...il.com> wrote: > Right, but you said that the global warming folks are asking for unnecessary > spending of *trillions*. Where would those trillions go? I don't see Al > Gore becoming richer than Bill Gates off carbon credits. Neither do I see > the UN gaining any more power via the IPCC. If anything, the existing > climate treaty (i.e. the Kyoto protocol) has completely sidestepped the UN. > > I guess what I'm troubled by is the fact that you seem to be stating that > there's some kind of deliberate malice on the part of those stating that > anthropogenic climate change is real. I don't see malice. I see a fair > amount of incompetence, but incompetence exists in every discipline. > > --Rohit Patnaik > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com> > wrote: >> >> I'm going to assume this is a serious question. >> >> You could start with the people enriching themselves off of carbon >> credits. Al Gore, for one obvious example. You could continue with the >> people that think the entire world should be ruled by a bureaucracy called >> the UN. You could go on with the "scientists" who get millions of dollars >> worth of grants to "study" the problem and propose solutions. >> >> Are there people on the opposing side who benefit from what you call >> scaremongering? Of course there are. But the claims of the global warming >> crowd are unsupported by the data (not *their* data, because they have >> clearly skewed it to support their claims, as is proven both by their emails >> and their program code) but by the real data, unmassaged. >> >> --On Monday, November 30, 2009 16:00:05 -0600 Rohit Patnaik >> <quanticle@...il.com> wrote: >> >>> There's a question I ask whenever I hear a theory like this. Cui bono? >>> Who benefits? Who is benefiting from the "climate change >>> scaremongering"? >>> You claim that trillions of dollars will need to be spent. If its such a >>> scam, then who is scamming us? The UN IPCC? A mysterious cabal of >>> alternative energy companies? The Trilateral Commission? >>> >> >> -- >> Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst >> As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions >> are my own and not those of my employer. >> ******************************************* >> "It is as useless to argue with those who have >> renounced the use of reason as to administer >> medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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