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Message-ID: <f26cd0911001071455k52a5ab74m991ac043ee6a1a80@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:55:44 +0100
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan@...para.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: "McGhee, Eddie" <Eddie.McGhee@....com>,
	"full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Geolocation Question

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:14:36 +0100, Dan Kaminsky said:
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:12 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> > > OK, so it only works against wireless routers that have been wardriven
> > > already.  Makes you wonder what's on those Google Street-View trucks
> > > besides a camera. ;)
>
> > www.wigle.net and SkyHook have been doing this stuff for a while.
>  Though I
> > suppose there is that rule, "It's only creepy if Google does it"
>
> Not creepy, just a simple matter of scale.  I'm fairly sure that Google's
> done several orders of magnitude more driving around than the other guys.
>
>
I'm not.

"Wigle has 18,837,276 points from 1,058,769,231 unique observations."

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