full-disclosure - Re: Two MSIE 6.0/7.0 NULL pointer crashes

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:15:01 -0500
From: T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: Full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Two MSIE 6.0/7.0 NULL pointer crashes

"Do you really want to be buying
an entire operating system from somebody who just admitted they can't even
produce a workable browser with all their resources?"

Valdis makes the novice assumption that people consider valuations of
this sort when buying the newest iteration of Microsoft products. The
idea that consumers would actually consider an alternative to what is
an effectively locked in platform is laughable. The suggestion that
they might find such a move to be of any relevance or impact on their
purchasing decision is insane.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:38:34 EST, James Matthews said:
>
>> Why doesn't microsoft throw some of it's weight behind Mozilla and ditch IE
>> forever. It doesn't suit their image.
>
> Unfortunately, the PR doesn't work that way.  Do you really want to be buying
> an entire operating system from somebody who just admitted they can't even
> produce a workable browser with all their resources?
>
> (Note this works differently in the Linux world, where the kernel crew doesn't
> even pretend to write browsers, and the Firefox crew *just* does browsers, and
> somebody else *just* does OpenOffice, and distros (for the most part) just worry
> about integration issues, and everybody only claims to do their little part
> well)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>



-- 
FD1D E574 6CAB 2FAF 2921  F22E B8B7 9D0D 99FF A73C
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=tbiehn&op=index&fingerprint=on
http://pastebin.com/f6fd606da

_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/