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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:10:26 -0600
From: "James W. Lytle" <>
To: "" <>
Subject: Re: Draw a line under this non-sense, seriously

Perhaps as a PROFESSIONAL, you could learn to temper your responses a little more appropriately rather than allowing flames to get the better of you?

This discussion, I agree, should really be continued off-list, off-line or both.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:full-disclosure-
>] On Behalf Of james o' hare
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:53 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Draw a line under this non-sense, seriously
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Son of Ram <> wrote:
> > Andrew,
> >
> > I'm happy that you've made the choice to settle down and have a
> > family.
> >
> > But wait a second, James O'Hare?
> >
> > Your behaviour of using pretextual identities is suspiciously
> > similar to all those escapades we had.
> >
> > Ah, 69? All about the family, isn't that true, Mr. Wallace?
> >
> > Perhaps you should run for political office.
> >
> > Did you meet this girlfriend on Yahoo chat just this morning? I'm
> > sure she feels very safe and secure having an authority-type figure
> > such as yourself with her. ;-)
> >
> > You had about 12 hours to chart a new life course, and I'm positive
> > you won't be back trolling this list ever again.
> >
> It was a good national security & intelligence blog and lot's of
> experts were reading it, there was no reason for you to do what you
> did on Monday, but you decided to do it anyway.
> You ruined it for everyone else in the intelligence community, now
> they are all needing to be added to an invite list and the general
> public aren't being able to read it, because of you.
> If it wasn't for you I wouldn't have been flamed into an argument on
> the list and wouldn't have been banned on January 2009 and I would
> still be contributing good information to the list, such as who I
> think was really behind various cyber attacks that have happened and
> be able to publicly post good cyber security policy suggestions to
> counter the attacks, such as Google Aurora.
> It just means for you less public information from the security &
> intelligence community that you don't get to know about.
> I have access to the information about cyber attacks and policy, I
> could be posting about it all, but that all ended on January 2009
> because of you.
> All been thrown away and is not publicly available information because of
> you.
> I have years of hands on experience in cyber security, have entered
> into the intelligence community and had plenty to offer this list, if
> it wasn't for you who flamed me into an argument on purpose just so
> you could have me banned last year.
> I was never a troll, however you are one big troll.
> You don't have the interest of the security & intelligence community
> at heart, you just create random names to wind people up, I hate you,
> I completely hate you and I'm watching everything your *real body*
> person are up to.
> You wanted people to be more open with the public and release
> information about whats going on but you blew it on January 2009.
> I happily accepted being banned from the list, but you couldn't accept
> it and you started popping up aliases since January 2009 pretending to
> be me and people thought it was me, however it was you.
> I created a national security & intelligence blog instead at the
> beginning of 2010 because I was banned from the list on January 2009
> to offer the public the information that I couldn't post to the list
> because of you.
> However, because of you, I can't even have a public blog now, because
> of you, and now nobody can be open and transparent with the public
> about whats *really* going on because of you.
> Keep the aliases coming, I'm sure our monitoring systems don't link
> them all up and know exactly who is posting even before they reach the
> list as they are travelling over the internet to the list server.
> You had the chance for the intelligence community to be more open with
> the public about what the bad guys are upto but you blew it big time.
> Son of Ram today, what alias will you be using tomorrow?
> Andrew
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