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Message-ID: <k2q2d6724811004020703u44cec700n87869f5187b961e6@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:03:22 -0400
From: T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com>
To: Haris Pilton <harispilton37@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure <Full-Disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Security system

Can't hurt.
I don't trust machines in DCs much less VPSs.

An adversary with the resources and motivation to kill power, net, and
jam GSM when they're pwning your house would probably be able to know
about and take out your watchdog box in the same move.

-Travis

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Haris Pilton <harispilton37@...il.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2010, T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com> wrote:
>> Nah, I'm saying a GSM jammer would block your prepaid cell signal.
>>
>> So if your adversary were to cut the power, cut the net AND jam GSM
>> you'd be out of luck in getting notification.
>
> Very tru, tho u can combine this with a remote box that reacts iff it
> no longer cant reach ur home box. Tht wy they cant just block outgoing
> signals n be clear
>
>>
>> You can get all fancy and have your program try all methods available.
>> Cell, Wired Net, WIFI (throw an antennae on your roof,) pager, etc.
>>
>> -Travis
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM,  <james@...thwaysecurity.com> wrote:
>>> Good idea u saying also I should by a gsm jammer this a good idea I will
>>> try.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:30 AM, T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Buy a prepaid cell, rig your comp & phone up to a battery backup.
>>>> Breakout board on your Serial port, or from a USB-DB9 RS232 adapter.
>>>>
>>>> Have the text messaged banged out on the prepaid, rig wires from the
>>>> breakout board to the cell phone, rig wires from your security sensors
>>>> into your breakout board. App to listen on com port send a nice high
>>>> signal to the pin connecting to your send key.
>>>>
>>>> Done.
>>>>
>>>> Like, 50$ for the phone incld. minutes.
>>>> Like less than 20$ for a breakout board.
>>>>
>>>> Also, rig the ringer up to an input on the breakout board and you can
>>>> call your phone to clear your FDE keys from RAM and kill your machine
>>>> if you think the man is paying a visit once you get a text :)
>>>>
>>>> Some adversaries will cut net, hardline, sometimes power.
>>>>
>>>> Attacks: GSM jammers, which everyone has.
>>>>
>>>> -Travis
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Oscar Bacelar <oscarbm@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Try arduino + internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/3/27 <james@...thwaysecurity.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any one got any ides how I would program a system to call me from a
>>>>>> voip network to alert me of a home security breach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
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