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Message-ID: <20100414193224.7d5305fb@foo.fgeek.fi>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:32:24 +0300
From: Henri Salo <henri@...v.fi>
To: Kaddeh <kaddeh@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Insufficient Anti-automation and Denial of
 Service vulnerabilities in multiple systems

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:35:30 -0700
Kaddeh <kaddeh@...il.com> wrote:

> First off, I am curious how many of the developers responded to your
> notification to them about these vulnerabilities.
> Secondly, just a thought, if you are testing a piece of obscure
> software, at least try and link to their site/repo or whatever.
> Third, if all of these CMS vulns that you are finding are true, I am
> assuming that they are possible, why are you testing CMS software
> that was last updated 2 years ago like HoloCMS (at least, without
> proper links to home pages, I can't tell short of doing a Google
> search). Additionally, I would assume that you tested these on a
> machine that you yourself have, specs of this machine would be nice,
> I know that I have seen several vulns come through that can be
> reproduced, but you have to have a very select configuration (ie,
> document.write "bugs" that only fail on 32-bit, VM issues with VT-x
> on 32-bit, etc)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Kad

Two year old release might still be vulnerable. That should tell
people a lot about the state of overall security. I still can't figure
out why MustLive doesn't request CVE-numbers.

I also beleive there might be none to zero automated security testing
for these not-so-known CMS-softwares.

---
Henri Salo

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