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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:06:35 -0400
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan@...para.com>
To: T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com>
Cc: Full disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: IE8 img tag HiJacking

Interesting use, using filesize to back into the actual CAPTCHA used for a
given query.  Sneaky!

So it's possible to read not only filesize, but image dimensions
cross-domain.  I actually found a use for this -- it's a good way to
exchange a small amount of data between sites that mutually distrust one
another.  The reason for this is that images are pretty much the only
resources that can be loaded cross-domain that won't have embedded script
executed by a browser.

(Side note:  At this point, you're probably thinking:  Vladimir just said
that some browsers allow SVG to load via <img> -- and SVG can embed script
with nothing but a script tag  and a smile!  Doesn't this mean a bunch of
sites are in trouble?

Turns out, no, not as far as I can tell anyway.  IE and Firefox both block
<img> to SVG entirely, while Chrome, Safari, and Opera allow it.  But there
appears to be a script firewall (or more accurately, a missing connection)
between <img>-loaded SVG and the script engine.  Static SVG renders just
fine, but don't expect it to do anything unless you top-level nav, inline,
or use something like embed.)

Back to image dimensions, it turns out that this information channel cannot
be closed; even if the dimensions of the object itself couldn't be queried,
the XY positioning of the objects *around* the imported images must be both
queryable and dependent on image properties.

I was curious however if img.fileSize would leak filesizes of non-image
content.  Doesn't look like it does -- undefined in everything but IE, -1 in
IE.


2010/4/22 T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com>

> It could be used as a technique for defeating the login images used as
> "two-factor-authentication" by some online services.
> The application of using filesize to fingerprint an image is somewhat
> novel. This is a decidedly 'old' vector, though.
>
> -Travis
>
> 2010/4/21 Владимир Воронцов <vladimir.vorontsov@...ec.ru>
>
> Hello Full disclosure!
>>
>> Once again, unwinding theme HiJacking found a fun way to get the very
>> least information about the target resource when the user is located at
>> the
>> attacker.
>>
>> Already crocked <img> tag opens new opportunities using the method
>> fileSize, described here:
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms533752
>> (v = VS.85). Aspx
>>
>> Consider a simple example - a Web application after authentication
>> provides some sort of picture for the user, for example:
>>
>> http://example.com/getImage.php?image=myAvatar
>>
>> The attacker, knowing this can create a page to read:
>>
>> <img id="onsec" src="http://example.com/getImage.php?image=myAvatar">
>>
>> <input type="button" onclick="if (onsec.fileSize> 0) (alert ('authorized
>> on example.com') else (alert ('not authorized on example.com')}">
>>
>> Thus, the attacker learns the simplest case, whether the target user
>> access to example.com.
>>
>> Continuing the theme, I want to note that in some cases, can obtain
>> additional information from the very values of the size of the picture. It
>> can be any logical information Web applications, say, the same script can
>> show administrators a picture of the same size, and users - of another.
>> Thus, we obtain the user rights. And so on.
>>
>> I'd like to return the size of the method is not only "valid" images, but
>> also HTML pages, JSON, etc. But, unfortunately, does not work. Maybe, of
>> course, there are exceptions, call to investigate the matter.
>>
>> I have some thoughts on the study of vector images in XML format, because
>> HTML is often valid XML, and then ...
>>
>> Check for the test version IE9, but he did not support SVG inside tag
>> <img>, but only as a separate tag.
>>
>> Works in IE8, in Opera 10.52 does not work on check writing, if not
>> difficult.
>>
>> Original at russian language: http://oxod.ru/?p=113
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Vladimir Vorontsov
>> ONsec security expert
>>
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