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Message-ID: <s2xf37852831004231020g79fe86bekeab5ce45e9906003@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:20:35 -0700
From: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@...il.com>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	"security-basics@...urityfocus.com" <security-basics@...urityfocus.com>,
	"Thor \(Hammer of God\)" <Thor@...merofgod.com>
Subject: Re: Compliance Is Wasted Money, Study Finds

You don't think in-house payment gateways can be as stable as third
party gateways?

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com> wrote:
> it is simply part of the cost of doing business in that market.
> A.k.a. wasted money. Truth be told, I'm no fan of PCI.
> Other companies get the same functionality (accept the storage of credit
> cards) without worrying about PCI/DSS (e.g. through Payment Gateways).
> In the end, as a service, what do I want, an inventory of credit cards, or a
> stable payment system? The later I guess.
> As to security, it totally depends on implementation; one can handle credit
> cards without the need of standards compliance.
>
> My two cents.
>
> Regards,
> Christian Sciberras.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Thor (Hammer of God) <Thor@...merofgod.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Another thing that I think people fail to keep in mind is that when it
>> comes to PCI, it is part of a contractual agreement between the entity and
>> card facility they are working with.   If a business wants to accept credit
>> cards as a means of payment (based on volume) then part of their agreement
>> is that they must undergo compliance to a standard implemented by the
>> industry.  I don’t know why people get all emotional about it and throw up
>> their hands with all the “this is wasted money” positioning – it’s not
>> wasted at all; it is simply part of the cost of doing business in that
>> market.
>>
>>
>>
>> t
>>
>>
>>
>> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Christopher
>> Gilbert
>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:48 PM
>> To: Mike Hale
>> Cc: full-disclosure; security-basics@...urityfocus.com
>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Compliance Is Wasted Money, Study Finds
>>
>>
>>
>> The paper concludes that companies are underinvesting in--or improperly
>> prioritizing--the protection of their secrets. Nowhere does it state that
>> the money spent on compliance is money wasted.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@...il.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I find the findings completely flawed.  Am I missing something?
>>
>>
>>
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