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Message-ID: <4BE07BA7.60209@extendedsubset.com>
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 14:55:19 -0500
From: Marsh Ray <marsh@...endedsubset.com>
To: Georgi Guninski <guninski@...inski.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: newest category of security bugs considered
 elite	?

On 5/1/2010 1:23 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
> ok, we had a flame.
>
> what is the newest category of sekurity bugz that is considered elite?

I had to think about this a few days.

My nomination for 'most leet' is the exploitation of hardware on the die
of the chip:

“Tarnovsky’s examination process involved subtle use of hardware-based
liquid chemical and gas technologies in a lab setting to probe with
specialized needles to build tungsten bridges.”

http://blackhat.com/html/bh-dc-10/bh-dc-10-speaker_bios.html#Tarnovsky

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9151158/Black_Hat_Researcher_claims_hack_of_chip_used_to_secure_computers_smartcards

Hardware hacking is a magnificent example of something everyone has
always known was possible and largely pretended didn't exist.

> basically, int. over., BO are generally considered elite yet barely new.
> XSS probably is not elite by 3l33t majority opinion.
>
> i was looking in the past and my heart was not beating fast ;-)

Runner up is the category of research enabled by USRP:
http://www.ettus.com/products

Particularly the GSM rainbowing and OpenBTS efforts:
http://reflextor.com/trac/a51
http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/Fahrplan/events/3654.en.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/28/gsm_eavesdropping_breakthrough/
http://openbts.sourceforge.net/

You asked about 'sekurity bugz'. Not sure if these are the bugz you are
looking for, :-) but its an answer to some question.

- Marsh

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