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Message-ID: <AANLkTik1BwkWeU7RkzorFWw5hEOsnsQJQiWmevErQXiI@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:59:54 +0200
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
To: Susan Bradley <sbradcpa@...bell.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, Tavis Ormandy <taviso@...xchg8b.com>,
	bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Windows Help Centre Handles
	Malformed Escape Sequences Incorrectly

Susan, if you want my advise, don't even bother with Mr Live.

Cheers.





On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Susan Bradley <sbradcpa@...bell.net> wrote:

> You commented that Microsoft needs to address a communication problem.
> It's irrelevant to the full disclosure issue in my mind.
>
> I'd honestly like to know if there is a break down in communication at
> the MSRC that needs to be addressed.  It appears there is one?
>
>
> Tavis Ormandy wrote:
> > Susan, this is what is called "full disclosure", and my response was
> > relevant.
> >
> > I will not answer anymore uninformed questions on this topic.
> >
> > Thanks, Tavis.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 09:02:37AM -0700, Susan Bradley wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not asking about disclosure.  I'm asking what happened to the level
> >> of communication between you and MSRC that after 4 days you posted this?
> >>
> >> Tavis Ormandy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Susan, I wish I had the time to hold your hand through getting up to
> >>> speed on the disclosure debate. Instead, I would suggest starting with
> >>> the links in my advisory which were intended to give you enough
> >>> background to understand the issues involved (skip to the Notes
> section,
> >>> if you like).
> >>>
> >>> As I cannot hope to speak as eloquently on the topic as Bruce, I will
> >>> not attempt to repeat them for you here.
> >>>
> >>> If after researching the topic you still have questions, please let me
> >>> know.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Tavis.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 08:36:09AM -0700, Susan Bradley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not an enterprise customer, but I am a mouthy female. So here's my
> >>>> question back to you, for my education, how exactly did MSRC contact
> you
> >>>> back?
> >>>>
> >>>> Since June 5th have you tried emailing back or any of your contacts
> from
> >>>> past interactions and asked what was up?  I'm disappointed in this
> lack
> >>>> of communication I see on both sides.  You are ...well... Tavis
> >>>> Ormandy... I seriously doubt MSRC is blowing you off here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Keep in mind we just had a LARGE patch week to deal with.  I don't
> know
> >>>> what was going on on their side, nor making excuses as I don't know
> what
> >>>> communication you've had in the past and had on this issue ... I'm
> just
> >>>> saying I would have spent a little more time getting mad at them and
> >>>> sent a lot more emails back to them before posting this.
> >>>>
> >>>> (And try dealing with Microsoft licensing sometime if you think
> security
> >>>> communication is lacking)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
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