full-disclosure - Re: Congratulations Andrew

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Message-ID: <optid.478352ec3b.58DB1B68E62B9F448DF1A276B0886DF12DB5EE6A@EX2010.hammerofgod.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:34:08 +0000
From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <Thor@...merofgod.com>
To: wilder_jeff Wilder <wilder_jeff@....com>,
	"full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Congratulations Andrew

By the same logic, then yes you would.  Which is why the statement "if a system has no password, then you have a legal right to whatever data is on it" is complete horse hockey.

Don't take technical advice from your lawyer, and don't take legal advice from people on security lists.

t

From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of wilder_jeff Wilder
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:56 AM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Congratulations Andrew

By that same standard.. if you leave your house unlocked.... does that give someone the right to enter it?

just my thoughts
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:58:27 +0200
From: uuf6429@...il.com<mailto:uuf6429@...il.com>
To: tbiehn@...il.com<mailto:tbiehn@...il.com>
CC: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk<mailto:full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>; Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu<mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Congratulations Andrew

Reminds be of Al Capone and tax evasion ;-)

Good ol' America.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com<mailto:tbiehn@...il.com>> wrote:
Yes.
The FBI was investigating the AT&T incident, presumably the AT&T incident was what the fed were serving against.
What possible valid search warrant could be executed? There was no hack, breach, illegal access of data, or anything else for that matter.

If you leave a system online with no password which allows you to scrape content you have a legal right to scrape that content.

-Travis

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu<mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:09:22 EDT, T Biehn said:

> I doubt the search warrant will hold up in court.
Do you have any actual basis for saying that?  Sure, the warrant might be
bullshit, it might be solid - the article doesn't give us enough info either
way to tell.

"Auernheimer was also arrested in March for giving a false name to law
enforcement officers responding to a parking complaint."

Sad.  The dude may have the intelligence to pull the hack, but not have the
wisdom to not dig a hole deeper. Just man up and take the frikking parking
ticket. ;)

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