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Message-Id: <CB4356C3-D501-40F1-A015-2D038B3C58F1@sekure.org>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:51:48 -0300
From: Nelson Brito <nbrito@...ure.org>
To: epixoip <epixoip@...h.com>
Cc: "focus-ids@...urityfocus.com" <focus-ids@...urityfocus.com>,
	"full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	"pen-test@...urityfocus.com" <pen-test@...urityfocus.com>,
	"security-basics@...urityfocus.com" <security-basics@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: Re: [Tool] - inundator - an intrusion detection
	false positives generator.

That is not new and you should give the credits, not just for NNG (http://packetstormsecurity.org/filedesc/nng-4.13r-public.rar.html), but you are missing STICK, SNOT and and IDSWAKEUP as well.

Nelson Brito
Security Researcher
http://fnstenv.blogspot.com/

Sent on an  iPhone wireless device. Please, forgive any potential misspellings!

On Jul 1, 2010, at 10:25 PM, "epixoip" <epixoip@...h.com> wrote:

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> 
> homepage: http://inundator.bindshell.nl/
> deb repo: deb http://inundator.sourceforge.net/repo/ all/
> gpg key : http://inundator.sourceforge.net/inundator.asc
> 
> Announcing the release of inundator v0.5!
> 
> inundator is a modern twist on an old concept -- it's an
> IDS/IPS/WAF evasion tool, used to anonymously flood intrusion
> detection systems with false positives in order to obfuscate a real
> attack. inundator leverages the vagueness and poor quality of
> Snort's rules files to generate completely harmless packets / HTTP
> requests that contain just enough keywords to trigger a false
> positive. We thought this was an original idea, but it looks like
> Snot, fwsnort's snortspoof, and possibly others beat us to the
> punch. However, these tools were developed around the turn of the
> century, are quite dated and well-forgotten, and overall quite
> inferior to inundator.
> 
> inundator is full featured, multi-threaded, queue-based, supports
> multiple targets, and requires the use of a SOCKS proxy for
> anonymization. Via Tor, inundator is capable of generating around
> 1000 false positives per minute. Via a high-bandwidth SOCKS proxy,
> you might be able to generate ten times that amount.
> 
> The general idea is one would launch inundator prior to starting an
> attack, allow it to run during the attack, and continue to run it a
> while longer after you've accomplished the attack. The goal, of
> course, is to generate an overwhelming number of false positives so
> that your real attack is essentially buried within the other
> alerts, minimizing the chance of your attack being detected. It
> could also be used to ruin an IDS analyst's day, or keep an
> organization's infosec department busy for a while. I suppose it
> could also be used to test the effectiveness of an IDS, but no, not
> really.
> 
> inundator is implemented in Perl (version >= 5.10 is recommended
> due to ithreads bugs in previous versions), and has been tested on
> Debian Lenny, Debian Squeeze, Ubuntu Jaunty, BackTrack4, and Mac OS
> X against Snort v2.8.5.2. It is presumed to work on all POSIX
> operating systems. Hell, it might even work on Windows.
> 
> /epixoip.
> 
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