full-disclosure - Re: there might be three people who missed it...

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Message-ID: <AANLkTil3ckHb7dPut7AiYDRHni7j1WLcrve_kpqg3mO4@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:26:44 +0200
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	"andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>
Subject: Re: there might be three people who missed it...

Adding to Kletnieks', for what it's worth, chemistry students study the
chemical formula of C-4 during under-graduate level education (well,
actually it is trinitrotoluene, but hey, it's just a bit less powerful)...






On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:56 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:24:07 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> > Are you trying to say no disclosure will ever come under the profile of
> cyber
> > terrorism?
>
> No, I'm saying that claiming *every* disclosure *is* "cyber terrorism" is
> lunacy.  I've yet to see *anybody* other than yourself claim that Ormandy's
> disclosure qualified as terrorism of any sort, cyber or otherwise.  That
> leaves
> one of two possibilities:
>
> 1) Ten years from now, we'll be wondering how all tens of thousands of
> people
> in the computer security field totally got it wrong and you were the only
> one
> who got it right.
>
> 2) The reverse of (1).
>
> Hint:  Unrecognized geniuses are so frikkin' rare they teach you about
> them in school.  Unrecognized idiots are much more common.
>
> (Although I *would* enjoy seeing you come up with a *plausible* example
> where
> the disclosure *itself* qualified as terrorism, separate from what uses are
> made of it.  For example - although terrorists have used C-4, the invention
> of
> C-4 is not *itself* terrorism.  Remember to keep that distinction straight
> in
> your scenario).
>
>
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