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Message-ID: <AANLkTikwVEJ6GYUxsBW2YwXnNq8SJGc9jccs6Xw0hJWG@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:14:10 +0100
From: Benji <me@...ji.com>
To: Tim <tim-security@...tinelchicken.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: so like i hrd python devz like mudkipz?

"All publicity is good publicity"  - Michael Scott

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Tim <tim-security@...tinelchicken.org> wrote:
>> so like i hrd python devz like mudkipz?  http://bugs.python.org/issue9702
>
> I presume you are Dave B?
>
>
> So this is a great example of why introductory programming courses in
> college should teach C (or something similar) as a first language
> rather than Java.  Kids these days don't understand what operating on
> something by reference is and why you'd want to do that.
>
> Also Dave, your example Python code in the bug report doesn't match
> the scenario in the SSL socket wrapper bug.  The former tries to
> isolate the differences in operating by reference or value and the
> latter confusion comes about because the programmer didn't understand
> the Python scoping rules.  (At least that's what I gather from the bug
> report alone; didn't look at the rest of the code.)
>
> I'm really not sure how any of this is security related.
>
> tim
>
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