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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:57:43 +0200 From: wmsecurity <wmsecurity@...il.com> To: Giuseppe Fuggiano <giuseppe.fuggiano@...il.com> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: Gödel and kernel backdoors Nowadays most vendors interferes and alters *a lot* in your operating system, from hooking Win32 API functions to modification of the IAT. It's only a question of who came first, the malware or the protection program. On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 00:30, Giuseppe Fuggiano <giuseppe.fuggiano@...il.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 22:51 +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> http://plus.maths.org/content/goumldel-and-limits-logic >> Gödel and the limits of logic >> >> Quote: >> >> Another result that derives from Gödel's ideas is the demonstration that >> no program that does not alter a computer's operating system can detect >> all programs that do. In other words, no program can find all the >> viruses on your computer, unless it interferes with *and alters* the operating system. > > Interesting, especially because actually Antiviruses do alter my > operating system, usually making it unstable. That's why I don't use > them. > > Giuseppe. > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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