full-disclosure - Re: Gödel and kernel backdoors

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Message-ID: <AANLkTimRVOHMOkxTBMVN3DzXntr34t2rr71OuO+x72go@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:57:43 +0200
From: wmsecurity <wmsecurity@...il.com>
To: Giuseppe Fuggiano <giuseppe.fuggiano@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Gödel and kernel backdoors

Nowadays most vendors interferes and alters *a lot* in your operating system,
from hooking Win32 API functions to modification of the IAT.
It's only a question of who came first, the malware or the protection program.


On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 00:30, Giuseppe Fuggiano
<giuseppe.fuggiano@...il.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 22:51 +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote:
>> http://plus.maths.org/content/goumldel-and-limits-logic
>> Gödel and the limits of logic
>>
>> Quote:
>>
>> Another result that derives from Gödel's ideas is the demonstration that
>> no  program that does not alter a computer's operating system can detect
>> all programs that do. In other words, no program can find all the
>> viruses on your computer, unless it interferes with *and alters* the operating system.
>
> Interesting, especially because actually Antiviruses do alter my
> operating system, usually making it unstable.  That's why I don't use
> them.
>
> Giuseppe.
>
>
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