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Message-ID: <4CAE2F89.6020202@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:37:29 +0100
From: "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
<cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk>
To: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@...merofgod.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: WikiLeaks
Yeah, you both have valid points. In this case though, I really just
don't see why everyone is so hyped up about the wikileaks / cryptome
stuff. :S
On 07/10/2010 21:21, Thor (Hammer of God) wrote:
> Paul has a point Cal - one should note that a full 53% of the posts on this topic (including this one) are in response to your posts about how this isn't the proper list for such posts in the first place. That means the majority of the posts that you call inappropriate were actually created by you. Filtering (or simply ignoring) original posts would have gone much further to perpetuate your goal of less off-topic chatter.
>
> t
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-
>> bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 11:54 AM
>> To: Paul Schmehl; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] WikiLeaks
>>
>> *sighs*
>>
>> On 07/10/2010 19:53, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>>> Then you will be whining for a long time.
>>>
>>> I was the second person to subscribe to this list, and I can guarantee
>>> you that no amount of whining will change it. The bozos who post crap
>>> will continue to post crap. The folks who don't understand what
>>> *un*-moderated list means will continue to complain about the bozos
>>> posting crap. And the sun will still come up in the morning. And the
>>> list will still go out every day. Ad infinitum ad nauseum.
>>>
>>> Either learn to use filters, stop complaining or unsubscribe. Those
>>> are your options. Pick one.
>>>
>>> --On Thursday, October 07, 2010 15:16:54 +0100 "Cal Leeming
>>> [Simplicity Media Ltd]"<cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will when people stop gossiping in the wrong list :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Benji<me@...ji.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Quit whining
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
>>>> <cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk>
>>>> Sender: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>>>> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:05:18
>>>> To:<full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
>>>> Reply-To: cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk
>>>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] WikiLeaks
>>>>
>>>> I still maintain this is completely out of topic for full-disclosure.
>>>> Maybe there should be a new list for this kind of gossip whoring?
>>>> [gossip-disclosure] maybe... *shrugs*
>>>>
>>>> On 07/10/2010 13:53, PsychoBilly wrote:
>>>>> False assertion, it's an attention whoring story for anyone in
>>>>> #sec..or in RPG
>>>>>
>>>>> 1- Fetch sparce elements
>>>>> wget:
>>>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/10/cryptome-hacked/
>>>>> https://eta.securesslhost.net/~pgpboar/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=129
>>>>> http://cryptome.org/0002/cryptome-hack3.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> 2- Make your own salad ( who's chasing who ).
>>>>>
>>>>> CRYPTOME< Wikileaks Insiders> WIKILEAKS (
>>>>> Ruxpin@...PTOME.HACK )
>>>>> Wikileaks Insiders<> pgpBoard ( the opponents ?[.gov]? )
>>>>> J.A.<> Wikileaks ( the .gov.target )
>>>>> WIRED.COM< Ruxpin> Kim Zetter ( fear, Insiderzzzzz! +
>>>>> panic.nicetry )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ************************
>>>>>> I'm not sure why everyone is so fussed about this tbh..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And surely, full-disclosure is no place for such a discussion either..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </rant>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/10/2010 19:06, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote:
>>>>>>> It's the newest tweet still.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juha-Matti
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeffrey Walton [noloader@...il.com] kirjoitti:
>>>>>>>> The latest is kind of funny ("Latest smear attempt: Chinese spy
>>>>>>>> agency gave WikiLeaks $20M").
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just call it a 'PAC Contribution' and everything will be fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Juha-Matti Laurio
>>>>>>>> <juha-matti.laurio@...ti.fi> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> And nothing related is not tweeted at
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/wikileaks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juha-Matti
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Harry Behrens [harry@...rens.com] kirjoitti:
>>>>>>>>>> for 5 days and nothing about this to be found on google.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have an idea what is happening here - it does
>>>>>>>>>> smell slightly fishy...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -h
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