full-disclosure - Re: Filezilla's silent caching of user's credentials

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Message-ID: <64849.1287017090@localhost>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:44:50 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Ryan Sears <rdsears@....edu>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, Mutiny <mutiny@...inbeardsucks.com>
Subject: Re: Filezilla's silent caching of user's
	credentials

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:49:59 EDT, Ryan Sears said:

> The only way to be really secure is run FreeBSD on a computer not plugged
> into any network and uses absolutely nothing external (usb drives, etc). Then
> it becomes a trade-off in usefulness. Also what happens when someone discovers
> a 0-day in BSD?

Actually, the adage used to be "the only safe computer is a powered-down
computer".  And even that's not perfect - some very clever guys at UIUC managed
to get a quantum CPU that wasn't powered on to do some calculations *anyhow*:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/28/paul-kwiat-on-quantum-computation/
(the original link at New Scientist seems to have gone belly-up)

Now, if the program run while it's turned off has an exploitable bug in it..... 

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