Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:25:01 -0500
From: Ana Kismet <anakismet@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: wikileaks still under attack,
	pressure revved up

Then prove it. I don't care if you're married to the queen of England: your
statement that WL has hurt the troops carries no ground without evidence.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/17/wikileaks/index.html



On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Jonathan Medina <jonmedina@...il.com>wrote:

> I am in the military, currently in Iraq, and these Wikileaks posts
> have hurt us more than people realize. It does two things, first, it
> demonstrates our tactics and procedures which allow insurgents to
> conduct more effective attacks against us, and second, the information
> it provides to insurgents endangers our sources and the families of
> sources that have provided us with valuable information. It also
> provides a means of giving insurgents propaganda to use against us.
> Whether you agree with the war or not, the publication of these
> documents hurts people who had no say in the decision to go to war.
> Having said that, I absolutely do not support the illegal attacks and
> denial of service to the site. Here is a link to a tech news article i
> read today on the issue.
>
>
> http://cybersecurityreport.nextgov.com/2010/10/wikileaks_communications_infrastructure_attacked.php?oref=latest_posts
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ana Kismet <anakismet@...il.com> wrote:
> > I have seen nothing released that reveals sensitive information such as
> "GPS
> > co-ords + details of those who co-op'd with soldiers."
> >
> > This is a rumor. If you have proof that this is not a rumor, please post
> it.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
> > <cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> This will be my first and last post on this topic (again).
> >> I've just finished watching some videos about what wikileaks have been
> >> doing.
> >> It appears that they released a bunch of documents that revealed
> >> information such as GPS co-ords + details of those who co-op'd with
> >> soldiers. He also posted the names of these people too, and a bunch of
> >> information which could jeopardise the protection of soldiers on the
> ground,
> >> from all countries.
> >> I can appreciate his previous efforts, but what he has done here is put
> >> many lifes at risk, both civilians and soldiers.
> >> So, if the US military have launched an all our war on Wikileaks,
> whether
> >> it be legal or not, I can't say it would be entirely shocking.
> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Harry Behrens <harry@...rens.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sorry to all of those who think this is "gossiping", but:
> >>>
> >>> Wikileaks has been down for ca. 2 weeks now during which time the US
> has
> >>> at least cut off their financial channels.
> >>> This during a period where WL has announced another major leak release
> >>> this time re. Iraq.
> >>> What is also extremely disconcerting is the absolute silence of _all_
> >>> main street media to the topic (gag...?)
> >>>
> >>> Now the latest tweet reads:
> >>> "WikiLeaks communications infrastructure is currently under attack.
> >>> Project BO move to coms channel S. Activate Reston5."
> >>>
> >>> Yet again I would like to pint out that there seems to be a concerted
> >>> high power attack going on against WL
> >>> And yet again I would like to point out it would be interesting to know
> >>> what is rally happening.
> >>> And yet again I'd like to emphasize that this indeed a security issue;
> >>> it does concern netizens and citizens in general if major government
> >>> organisations engage in what seems to be a dirty war against a
> >>> whistleblowing organisation.
> >>>
> >>> If anybody knows more, pls. do share insights...
> >>>
> >>>     Harry
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Cal Leeming
> >>
> >> Operational Security & Support Team
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Cal Leeming
> >>
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> >>
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