Message-ID: <4CE50E22.6060904@sharescope.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:29:38 +0000
From: Michal <michal@...rescope.co.uk>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Lee Vartan,
 Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security
 iPad case.

Are we done?? The pair of you?? Yes??

Good, move on

On 18/11/10 11:19, huj huj huj wrote:
> the pot calling the kettle black?
> lol you are becoming increasingly delusional
> maybe you should go back to eating out hepkitten
> its no wonder your parents gave up on you..
>
> 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com 
> <mailto:gluttony@...il.com>>
>
>     You're getting really incoherent. Do you need some ESL classes?
>     Perhaps you should contact one of those commercial services that write
>     college papers for lazy students to draft your FD troll posts.
>
>     On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:12 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com
>     <mailto:datskihuj@...il.com>> wrote:
>     > i didnt get the info from hepkitten? i dont see where you got
>     that fact from
>     > what i said was that hepkitten ousted you from bantown
>     > maybe if you learned how to read your life would be easier..
>     > white hat security researcher my ass
>     > is phishing myspace and livejournal accounts through lame memes
>     whitehat? i
>     > doubt it..
>     > get a grip and pull that dildo out of your ass you retard
>     >
>     > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com
>     <mailto:gluttony@...il.com>>
>     >>
>     >> I have never denied the extensive production of politically
>     motivated
>     >> art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
>     >> such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.
>     >>
>     >> Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:
>     >>
>     >> * An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
>     >> practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
>     >> extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
>     >> penalty of perjury.
>     >> * A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
>     >> something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
>     >> awards for public service for:
>     >>
>     >>
>     http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/
>     >>
>     >> and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
>     >> Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj
>     <datskihuj@...il.com <mailto:datskihuj@...il.com>> wrote:
>     >> > of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and
>     post lame
>     >> > rants
>     >> > as the iprophet :)
>     >> > as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious
>     >> >
>     >> > you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and
>     empty wallet
>     >> >
>     >> > stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little
>     lies and
>     >> > misconceptions anyway
>     >> >
>     >> > you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon
>     >> >
>     >> > you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol
>     >> >
>     >> > loser
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com
>     <mailto:gluttony@...il.com>>
>     >> >>
>     >> >> I never made those statements. They seem particularly
>     ridiculous and
>     >> >> not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
>     >> >> argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate
>     shit eater:
>     >> >>
>     >> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> last night I got a train run on me in a
>     sling at a
>     >> >> pozzing party
>     >> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> i loved having an ass packed full of semen
>     >> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on
>     my chest
>     >> >> 01:44 < Hujhujhuj> i packed the delicious feces into my
>     mouth and i
>     >> >> loved every single scrumptious bite
>     >> >> 01:46 < Hujhujhuj> im going to get tested later today, i
>     hope its poz,
>     >> >> ive been trying for ages
>     >> >>
>     >> >> What do you have to say for yourself?
>     >> >>
>     >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj
>     <datskihuj@...il.com <mailto:datskihuj@...il.com>>
>     >> >> wrote:
>     >> >> > ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the
>     russians..
>     >> >> > how very patriotic of you!!
>     >> >> > cunt :)
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> > 09:50 <weev> i gotta get some money
>     >> >> > 09:50 <weev> my cashflow sucks
>     >> >> > 09:51 <weev> whores
>     >> >> > 09:51 <weev> lavish cars
>     >> >> > 09:51 <weev> gigantic places to live
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> > 15:05 <weev> does anybody know these russians
>     >> >> > 15:06 <weev> that they are buying up hacked macs for 43
>     cents an
>     >> >> > install
>     >> >> > 15:26 <weev> i have access to like
>     >> >> > 15:26 <weev> 8k rooted macs
>     >> >> > 15:26 <weev> right now
>     >> >> > 15:26 <weev> and i would like to make a quick $3500
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> >
>     >> >> > 2010/11/18 huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com
>     <mailto:datskihuj@...il.com>>
>     >> >> >>
>     >> >> >> yeah takes one to know one
>     >> >> >> you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly
>     memes and
>     >> >> >> smalltime
>     >> >> >> trolling
>     >> >> >> you keep talking about what others have done
>     >> >> >> well i save starving children in africa
>     >> >> >> i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from
>     pattaya in 2009
>     >> >> >> i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
>     >> >> >> i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
>     >> >> >> let me recap
>     >> >> >> you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
>     >> >> >> you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs
>     too but be
>     >> >> >> realistic)
>     >> >> >> all you want is fame for your shattered ego
>     >> >> >> if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
>     >> >> >> have a nice day :)
>     >> >> >>
>     >> >> >> 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com
>     <mailto:gluttony@...il.com>>
>     >> >> >>>
>     >> >> >>> Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never
>     performed
>     >> >> >>> any
>     >> >> >>> such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers.
>     Continuing to
>     >> >> >>> assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my
>     case. Who are
>     >> >> >>> you?
>     >> >> >>> What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
>     >> >> >>>
>     >> >> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj
>     <datskihuj@...il.com <mailto:datskihuj@...il.com>>
>     >> >> >>> wrote:
>     >> >> >>> > "and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese
>     organized
>     >> >> >>> > crime"
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > "Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and
>     russki
>     >> >> >>> > botnet
>     >> >> >>> > CNCs
>     >> >> >>> > we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales
>     give back
>     >> >> >>> > our
>     >> >> >>> > illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the
>     evidence you
>     >> >> >>> > want
>     >> >> >>> > of
>     >> >> >>> > it.
>     >> >> >>> > We have years and years of good public service under
>     our belts.
>     >> >> >>> > Do
>     >> >> >>> > you?"
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > hahahahaha you're simply too funny
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on
>     their
>     >> >> >>> > systems
>     >> >> >>> > (the
>     >> >> >>> > ones you couldnt sell...)
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx
>     machines for
>     >> >> >>> > sale
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > fucking retard you're forgetting that information on
>     the internet
>     >> >> >>> > doesnt go
>     >> >> >>> > away
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > you are a joke and you make me laugh
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > keep it up :)
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> >
>     >> >> >>> > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com
>     <mailto:gluttony@...il.com>>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >> "The reality is that you are inconsequential to
>     security because
>     >> >> >>> >> you
>     >> >> >>> >> are a script kiddie."
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >> Perhaps you are confused as to what this term means.
>     Script
>     >> >> >>> >> kiddies
>     >> >> >>> >> are people who do not produce innovation of their
>     own, and
>     >> >> >>> >> solely
>     >> >> >>> >> run
>     >> >> >>> >> things downloaded from Packetstorm. I have repeatedly
>     stood up
>     >> >> >>> >> and
>     >> >> >>> >> done unique things to advance my nation, not just in
>     information
>     >> >> >>> >> security but in an interdisciplinary manner. As far as my
>     >> >> >>> >> accomplishments in information security, I recently
>     watched one
>     >> >> >>> >> of
>     >> >> >>> >> Samy Kamkar's presentations at Blackhat that cites
>     our group
>     >> >> >>> >> repeatedly. One of our advisories is mentioned in his
>     slides:
>     >> >> >>> >> http://i.imgur.com/YIl9I.jpg
>     >> >> >>> >> and he also states that cross-protocol scripting was
>     "made big"
>     >> >> >>> >> by
>     >> >> >>> >> us.
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >> What about Robert Hansen/RSnake? He said "I don’t see
>     anyone
>     >> >> >>> >> outside
>     >> >> >>> >> of a handful of people, like Weev, Wade Alcorn, Samy
>     Kumkar,
>     >> >> >>> >> Aaron
>     >> >> >>> >> Weaver and myself doing this kind of research.
>     There’s literally
>     >> >> >>> >> thousands of potentially exploitable services out
>     there!" --
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >> RSnake is well respected in the security community.
>     Does he
>     >> >> >>> >> suddenly
>     >> >> >>> >> not know what he's talking about just for recognizing the
>     >> >> >>> >> validity
>     >> >> >>> >> of
>     >> >> >>> >> my research? I have stacks of internal government memos
>     >> >> >>> >> highlighting
>     >> >> >>> >> the implications of stuff we've outlined-- clearly a
>     number of
>     >> >> >>> >> people
>     >> >> >>> >> think the things that we're doing are notable and
>     have real
>     >> >> >>> >> world
>     >> >> >>> >> implications.
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >> I do not post on this list looking for sympathy--
>     quite the
>     >> >> >>> >> opposite.
>     >> >> >>> >> Unlike you, I believe in free speech, and even want
>     to give my
>     >> >> >>> >> deepest
>     >> >> >>> >> critics a chance to hop into the dialogue.
>     >> >> >>> >> Finally, your profession deserves to be cheapened.
>     I've actually
>     >> >> >>> >> attempted to innovate, and who are you? Oh yeah,
>     you're some
>     >> >> >>> >> dude
>     >> >> >>> >> that
>     >> >> >>> >> hits a button on Core Impact for a living. There are
>     a number of
>     >> >> >>> >> amazing individuals in the information security
>     community doing
>     >> >> >>> >> great
>     >> >> >>> >> things, but for every one of them there's a hundred
>     snake-oil
>     >> >> >>> >> peddling
>     >> >> >>> >> losers who are the real scriptkiddies. Though dated,
>     the PHC
>     >> >> >>> >> production of the same name rings true for
>     individuals such as
>     >> >> >>> >> yourself. Maybe you should read it and it'll
>     challenge you to
>     >> >> >>> >> actually
>     >> >> >>> >> do something useful instead of tossing ad hominems on
>     a mailing
>     >> >> >>> >> list:
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/
>     >> >> >>> >>
>     >> >> >>> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S
>     >> >> >>> >> <fifteenfourtyone@...il.com
>     <mailto:fifteenfourtyone@...il.com>>
>     >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your
>     >> >> >>> >> > personal /
>     >> >> >>> >> > political views. The reality is you are
>     inconsequential to
>     >> >> >>> >> > security
>     >> >> >>> >> > because
>     >> >> >>> >> > you are a script kiddie. I had read articles about your
>     >> >> >>> >> > various
>     >> >> >>> >> > high
>     >> >> >>> >> > profile
>     >> >> >>> >> > 'trolling' incidents before, but until your asinine
>     post here
>     >> >> >>> >> > had
>     >> >> >>> >> > never
>     >> >> >>> >> > bothered to research you. What I've read was
>     nothing but
>     >> >> >>> >> > humorous.
>     >> >> >>> >> > At one
>     >> >> >>> >> > point you claim to hate bloggers, yet in a pre Web
>     2.0 world,
>     >> >> >>> >> > you
>     >> >> >>> >> > and your
>     >> >> >>> >> > Encyclopedia Dramatica generation script kiddies
>     would have no
>     >> >> >>> >> > notoriety at
>     >> >> >>> >> > all. Nobody would care about your bizarre high
>     profile cries
>     >> >> >>> >> > for
>     >> >> >>> >> > attention,
>     >> >> >>> >> > and personally, I certainly don't.
>     >> >> >>> >> > You are a troll and a script kiddie. Your whiney
>     rants have no
>     >> >> >>> >> > place
>     >> >> >>> >> > on
>     >> >> >>> >> > a mailing list for the security community. I'm sure
>     the kids
>     >> >> >>> >> > that
>     >> >> >>> >> > support
>     >> >> >>> >> > you on various forums eat your crap up, but you
>     will find
>     >> >> >>> >> > little
>     >> >> >>> >> > sympathy
>     >> >> >>> >> > here. You claim constantly to hunt pedophiles,
>     thats great.
>     >> >> >>> >> > Somehow
>     >> >> >>> >> > I'm sure
>     >> >> >>> >> > most people in prison have done good in their lives
>     as well as
>     >> >> >>> >> > bad.
>     >> >> >>> >> > Hopefully, if my tax dollars do their job, you will
>     have
>     >> >> >>> >> > plenty
>     >> >> >>> >> > of
>     >> >> >>> >> > time in
>     >> >> >>> >> > the near future to contemplate all of this in jail.
>     >> >> >>> >> > Grow up kiddo. Personally I resent how you and your ilk
>     >> >> >>> >> > cheapen
>     >> >> >>> >> > this
>     >> >> >>> >> > profession, and applaud law enforcement for doing
>     their job.
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > R
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > From: Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com>
>     >> >> >>> >> > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:06:02 -0600
>     >> >> >>> >> > ________________________________
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > Troy,
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > As with many of my critics, you insist on
>     attempting to libel
>     >> >> >>> >> > me
>     >> >> >>> >> > and
>     >> >> >>> >> > defame
>     >> >> >>> >> > my character (clearly having an objection to my
>     political
>     >> >> >>> >> > views)
>     >> >> >>> >> > instead
>     >> >> >>> >> > of
>     >> >> >>> >> > honestly debating the merits of my actions and the
>     reality of
>     >> >> >>> >> > my
>     >> >> >>> >> > many
>     >> >> >>> >> > well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem
>     >> >> >>> >> > attacks
>     >> >> >>> >> > like
>     >> >> >>> >> > yours
>     >> >> >>> >> > in stride with the civility and grace befitting of
>     a Christian
>     >> >> >>> >> > man,
>     >> >> >>> >> > and
>     >> >> >>> >> > urge
>     >> >> >>> >> > you to think more critically before you say more
>     things that
>     >> >> >>> >> > will embarrass you in front of your peers.
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > "You see no evidence of"
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > Your implication that because you have not seen
>     evidence of
>     >> >> >>> >> > something it
>     >> >> >>> >> > has
>     >> >> >>> >> > not happened is fallacious. Regardless, I will
>     enlighten you
>     >> >> >>> >> > with
>     >> >> >>> >> > some
>     >> >> >>> >> > history of our anti-pedophile activity (with links to
>     >> >> >>> >> > backdated
>     >> >> >>> >> > posts
>     >> >> >>> >> > pedophile posts detailing our successes against their
>     >> >> >>> >> > infrastructure
>     >> >> >>> >> > and
>     >> >> >>> >> > payment systems, emails with full headers and
>     evidence of
>     >> >> >>> >> > ongoing
>     >> >> >>> >> > pedophile
>     >> >> >>> >> > activity), some of which predates the iPad incident
>     by years.
>     >> >> >>> >> >  You
>     >> >> >>> >> > haven't
>     >> >> >>> >> > seen any evidence of it because we, unlike many
>     people, do not
>     >> >> >>> >> > wear
>     >> >> >>> >> > every
>     >> >> >>> >> > bit of public service we do on our sleeve. We live
>     in the
>     >> >> >>> >> > spirit
>     >> >> >>> >> > of
>     >> >> >>> >> > Matthew
>     >> >> >>> >> > 6:6.
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> >
>     >> >> >>> >> > _______________________________________________
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