Message-ID: <4D00C667.3050000@propergander.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:07:03 +0000
From: mrx <mrx@...pergander.org.uk>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Firefox Addon: KeyScrambler

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On 09/12/2010 10:26, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>> I tried installing this plugin to Firefox 3.6.12 in a virtualbox XP32(SP3)
> environment and it is incompatible.
>> I may wait for an update to the plugin and analyse its behaviour,
> providing my curiosity doesn't wane in the meantime.
> 
> Alternatively, you can just decompress the XPI (it's in fact a zip) and
> inspect the js files and/or decompress any binaries.
> I suppose they are distributing some form of driver, so you'd find
> IDA/ollydbg useful.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 

I extracted the files (various .js files and an exe) from the xpi.
The .js files version check and create an instance of keyscrambler.sys with the current firefox window passed to it as an argument.

I also extracted the contents of the executable; setup.exe.
Setup.exe contained various dll's and one sys file. I presumed this sys file; keyscrambler.sys, is the driver and main component of this addon.
To confirm I monitored the running of setup.exe.

My preumption was correct keyscrambler.sys is installed in system32 folder and is registered as an autostarting service, although it is hidden
from the services pane in computer management.

This is where my "skills" bottom out. ASM is something I have not yet got my head around.
I have a clue, but that's about all I do have... in time ;-)

Thanks for your advice and input
regards
Dave

> 
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:23 AM, mrx <mrx@...pergander.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> On 08/12/2010 11:30, Tim Gurney wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> This seems to contradict itself somewhat. A plugin to firefox should
>>>> have no way to encrypt things at a driver level within the kernel, that
>>>> would require installing seperate software at the root level, a plugin
>>>> should not be able to do this and i would be VERY worried and surprised
>>>> if it could as it would mean bypassing the security of the OS.
> 
> I tried installing this plugin to Firefox 3.6.12 in a virtualbox XP32(SP3)
> environment and it is incompatible.
> I may wait for an update to the plugin and analyse its behaviour, providing
> my curiosity doesn't wane in the meantime.
> 
> I am not a professional, I do this kind of research as a hobby and for
> educational purposes, when I have some free time.
> 
> 
>>>> Also if the driver is encrypting the key strokes and the plugin is
>>>> decrypting, what about all the keystrokes that are not in firefox, like
>>>> email, word processing, programming, there is nothing to decrypt these
>>>> so you would end up only ever being able to use firefox on the machine
>>>> and nothing else every again.
> 
> The devs do state that it only encrypts keystrokes in Firefox and not other
> applications, although they do sell a version that supposedly works
> "in over 160 browsers and applications".
>>>>
>>>> personally I would not touch this with a barge pole and I would do a lot
>>>> more more digging and checking into this.
> 
> Yes, I am sceptical of claims, hence the post to this list.
> 
> 
> 
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Tim
> 
> 
> Thanks for your input
> Dave.
> 
> 
>>>>
>>>> On 08/12/10 11:12, mrx wrote:
>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone familiar with the firefox addon KeyScrambler? According to
> developers this encrypts keystrokes.
>>>>
>>>>> Quote:
>>>>> "How KeyScrambler Works:
>>>>> When you type on your keyboard, the keys travel along a path within the
> operating system before it arrives at your browser. Keyloggers plant
>>>>> themselves along this path and observe and record your keystrokes. The
> collected information is then sent to the criminals who will use it to
>>>>> steal from you.
>>>>
>>>>> KeyScrambler defeats keyloggers by encrypting your keystrokes at the
> keyboard driver level, deep within the operating system. When the encrypted
>>>>> keystrokes reach your browser, KeyScrambler then decrypts them so you
> see exactly the keys you've typed. Keyloggers can only record the
>>>>> encrypted keys, which are completely indecipherable."
>>>>
>>>>> Can this be trusted? As in trusted I mean not bypassed.
>>>>
>>>>> Input from the professionals on this list would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
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