full-disclosure - Re: Allegations regarding OpenBSD IPSEC

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Message-ID: <CD62557E48DB0E2B1CFD39B0@utd71538.local>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:25:14 -0600
From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
To: bk <chort0@...il.com>, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Allegations regarding OpenBSD IPSEC

--On December 15, 2010 10:55:39 AM -0800 bk <chort0@...il.com> wrote:

>
> On Dec 15, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
>> --On December 14, 2010 8:40:14 PM -0500 bugs@....dhs.org wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.downspout.org/?q=node/3
>>>
>>> Seems IPSEC might have a back door written into it by the FBI?
>>>
>>
>> So for 10 years IPSEC has had a backdoor in it and not one person
>> examining  the code has noticed it? <snip>
>>
>> Read The Cathedral and The Bazaar.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
>
> I call bullshit on all the people claiming this couldn't possibly have
> existed because "anyone can read the source."  How many of you understand
> crypto.  OK, now how many of you _actually_ understand crypto?  And of
> those, how many look at *BSD?
>
> There have been plenty of recent examples of Open Source projects that
> have had undetected security flaws for multiple years.  It's not
> difficult to believe a relatively uncommon OS could have a subtle
> weakness in a difficult-to-understand part of the code.
>
> In this particular case, it looks to be total FUD by some lunatic with an
> axe to grind, but we shouldn't be so arrogant to assume that such a flaw
> _could not_ exist.
>
> BTW I actually use OpenBSD on many of my systems and I happen to think
> it's a very simple and practical OS, but I'm not blind to potential
> problems.
>

Reading comprehension problems?

I said it was not likely.  I did not say it was not possible.

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
*******************************************
"It is as useless to argue with those who have
renounced the use of reason as to administer
medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson
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intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell

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