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Message-Id: <0D8F51EA-C3C8-4085-8F06-2610D0D1BBA7@digi-nation.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:46:52 +0100
From: clément Game <clement@...i-nation.com>
To: "phil@...ea.net" <phil@...ea.net>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Allegations regarding OpenBSD IPSEC

i second that...yet we obviously need to figure out better ways to audit the code...maybe some kind of security-oriented unit-test framework ? ( dont'know if it exists already, and if it does, maybe that it's already employed  for the OpenBSD project...dunno )

WintermeW

Le 15 déc. 2010 à 20:59, phil@...ea.net a écrit :

> In my own opinion, when the code hit the stable release, I doubt that
> after the code is audited at 100% unless someone add a new feature to that
> part or a bug is found in that code part. All that due to the complexity
> to understand the code, all that energy is better invested to make new
> features and to remove existing bug.
> 
> Thats why IMO for that disclosure. (to put the focust on that code part)
> 
> 
> 
> -phil
> 
>> --On December 14, 2010 8:40:14 PM -0500 bugs@....dhs.org wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone read this yet?
>>> 
>>> http://www.downspout.org/?q=node/3
>>> 
>>> Seems IPSEC might have a back door written into it by the FBI?
>>> 
>> 
>> So for 10 years IPSEC has had a backdoor in it and not one person
>> examining
>> the code has noticed it?  Or even questioned it?  That's a bit hard to
>> believe.  It's along the same lines as the stories that Microsoft captures
>> all your packets and harvests your personal information.
>> 
>> Read The Cathedral and The Bazaar.
>> 
>> --
>> Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
>> As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
>> are my own and not those of my employer.
>> *******************************************
>> "It is as useless to argue with those who have
>> renounced the use of reason as to administer
>> medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson
>> "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very
>> intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell
>> 
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