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Message-ID: <AANLkTi=swxBWR9GMxT_X0Y_8W3MKh-93EW6GQavhcNNm@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:01:08 +0000
From: "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
	<cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk>
To: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: 
	from hbgary: stuxnet, WL attack, Psyop and Anonymous trackdown‏

I refer everyone to:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:OWQrHOa0wlYJ:www.hackerfactor.com/papers/who_is_n3td3v.pdf+n3td3v&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgOXeElYqoYkhojj9qtZ3bPDRiy_2OMLyhlaOqW6If-yK4-eLXAZQ4Yw3TGMl0YQFIwSmB0QbQmAjsnuZf8lmGMdXQrKwsWd8CtM7iO6xc4zSs621RgeFXvg-ueRsE5R1D5ENGv&sig=AHIEtbQlx0J-_J8eIS6lzxmFJJ0nQz23iw


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:51 PM, andrew.wallace <
andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Old Timer <ot48601@...il.com> wrote:
> > andrew:
> >
> > "Cal is a blackhat with criminal convictions, I hope he is forced from
> the
> > list by an uprising of whitehats.
> >
> > I'm a whitehat and its upsetting to see the disclosure community being
> taken
> > over by criminals.
> >
> > Andrew"
> >
> >
> > hahahah
> >
> > Why don't you have a quick glance at the list charter and see who founded
> > this list ?  Then go look them up in wikipedia....
> >
> > While yer at it, check out Scott Chasin, who founded bugtraq...
> >
> > And 8lgm, who were prolific bugtraq posters...
> >
> > the list goes on and on (and on and on).  How old are you, son ?
>
> n3td3v - Brief history of the consortium and timeline
>
> How We Started
>
> * Founded by entrepreneur and IT Security Consultant, Andrew Wallace.
>
> * The aged 30-something year old was born in 1981 and started the
> consultancy at the young age of 18.
>
> * n3td3v - IT Security Consultancy was founded in 1999 and helped the
> entrepreneur launch his career in IT Security.
>
> * Today, 2011, we are one of the most well known non-profit IT Security
> consortia in the UK.
>
> Learn more: https://sites.google.com/site/n3td3v/
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>

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