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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:47:23 +0000
From: "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
	<cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk>
To: 0x90@...cean.net
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	"andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>
Subject: Re: 
	(this thread is now about porn).‏

He always seems to manage to hustle a response out of people though, and has
done since what, 2006-ish? (way before I came onto the list!)

So far he hasn't bothered to badger at the porn posts, because I think he
just doesn't know what to say, it's outside of his comfort zone or
something. Hell it's been 24 hours almost and we haven't heard from him, I'm
getting worried, maybe he's committed suicide :O

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, <0x90@...cean.net> wrote:

> Maybe let's just ignore him ?
> I believe if no one cared at all about what he writes, such a troll
> wouldn't exist.
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:41:27 +0000, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
> wrote:
>
>> I do see where you are coming from, I really do. But right now, full
>> disclosure seems to be about whatever anyone wants it to be about.
>>
>> Until this list becomes moderated, the only control any of us have over
>> its
>> content, is to block individuals whom we don't wish to receive mail from.
>>
>> Although, Andrew is an exception to this theory, as no one seems to block
>> him. Therefore, my "every cloud has a silver lining" approach seems to be
>> a
>> suitable solution.
>>
>> If you have any better ideas, let's hear em.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:18 AM, phocean <0x90@...cean.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Then it is their problem but I did not click on any and I am sure (and I
>>> hope) I am not alone.
>>> But I don't even want to debate about it.
>>>
>>> The question is that simple: is FD about security or about porn?
>>>
>>> There are enough porn sites everywhere for people who want porn so I
>>> don't think it is necessary to offend some people here with it (even if
>>> we were minority).
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 17 février 2011 à 22:59 +0000, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media
>>> Ltd] a écrit :
>>> > You do realize that those bit.ly links I posted have had over 200
>>> > clicks on each one, right? (Go check it for yourself if you don't
>>> > believe me)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Looks to me like the majority of people on this forum would rather see
>>> > porn, than listen to Andrew's shit.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:44 PM, phocean <0x90@...cean.net> wrote:
>>> >         I never thought I would agree with Andrew some day, but that's
>>> >         done.
>>> >         Don't you understand that you are killing FD or is it what you
>>> >         want?
>>> >         We are not here for porn! You may be sick and think like
>>> >         anyone is like
>>> >         you, but believe me, there are people who don't want of it and
>>> >         live very
>>> >         well without. So respect others and stop this madness.
>>> >         By the way, who asked for moderation recently ?
>>> >
>>> >         Le jeudi 17 février 2011 à 20:13 +0000, Cal Leeming
>>> >         [Simplicity Media
>>> >         Ltd] a écrit :
>>> >
>>> >         > True to my word, here is the first (hopefully of many)
>>> >         "every cloud
>>> >         > has a silver lining" posts. (everytime Andrew posts more
>>> >         faggotry, I
>>> >         > will treat you all to decent porn!)
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         > I present to you, Gagging Report videos (user submitted!)
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         > http://bit.ly/fneO2U
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         > Enjoy!
>>> >         >
>>> >         > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:09 PM, andrew.wallace
>>> >         > <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com> wrote:
>>> >         >         Just do yourself a favour, leave the disclosure
>>> >         community for
>>> >         >         good like you've been requested so many times to do.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         Myself and any law enforcement folks reading the
>>> >         list won't
>>> >         >         bother pursuing your threats of violence further if
>>> >         you stop
>>> >         >         now.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         It's your choice, the ball is completely in your
>>> >         court in
>>> >         >         which direction you wish to go in life from now
>>> >         onwards.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         You can stop posting now and get on with the rest of
>>> >         your
>>> >         >         career, or you can continue on this same path.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         This list isn't a joke around like you seem to treat
>>> >         it, we
>>> >         >         are serious people with serious concerns.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         Andrew
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Cal Leeming
>>> >         [Simplicity Media
>>> >         >         Ltd] <cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >         >         > Prominent figure? LMFAO.
>>> >         >
>>> >         >         >>
>>> >         >         >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:19 PM, andrew.wallace
>>> >         >         >> <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com> wrote:
>>> >         >         >>>
>>> >         >         >>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Cal Leeming
>>> >         [Simplicity
>>> >         >         Media Ltd]
>>> >         >         >>> <cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >         >         >>> > Ah, now this is a different subject entirely!
>>> >         It suits
>>> >         >         some, but not
>>> >         >         >>> > others.
>>> >         >         >>>
>>> >         >         >>> Are you trying to distract the many police
>>> >         forces
>>> >         >         throughout the UK who
>>> >         >         >>> are subscribed to the list that you made a
>>> >         threat of
>>> >         >         violence towards a
>>> >         >         >>> prominent figure in the security community?
>>> >         >         >>>
>>> >         >         >>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Cal Leeming
>>> >         [Simplicity
>>> >         >         Media Ltd]
>>> >         >         >>> <cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >         >         >>> > I hope you turn up at my next conference, so I
>>> >         can slap
>>> >         >         the fuck out of
>>> >         >         >>> > you
>>> >         >         >>> > in front of everyone.
>>> >         >         >>> > Little bitch like you would probably go
>>> >         running to the
>>> >         >         police as well.
>>> >         >         >>>
>>> >         >         >>> Obviously, criminals are reported to the police.
>>> >         The
>>> >         >         problem here is,
>>> >         >         >>> this list is already populated with police
>>> >         forces
>>> >         >         throughout the UK.
>>> >         >         >>>
>>> >         >         >>> They may even ask me to attend the next
>>> >         conference you
>>> >         >         appear at, and
>>> >         >         >>> then cuff you as soon as you lay a hand on me.
>>> >         >         >>>
>>> >         >         >>> Cal Leeming, the so-called reformed criminal
>>> >         ends up back
>>> >         >         in court and
>>> >         >         >>> infront of the media glare.
>>> >         >         >>>
>>> >         >         >>> Andrew
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >         >
>>> >
>>> >
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