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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:27:29 -0500
From: jf <jf@...co.net>
To: Michal Zalewski <lcamtuf@...edump.cx>,
	full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: What the f*** is going on?

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 01:20:32PM -0800, Michal Zalewski wrote: 
> >> this is only true for remote attackers hitting network service auth.
> > Mhmm, and runas, su et al couldn't benefit from this?
> 
> Not a whole lot. You can likely tell a successful login from a failed
> one within several miliseconds by watching /proc or so.

I'd agree that remote auth obviously benefits more; but I'm not sure that an implementation issue entirely invalidates the point. Also, IIRC you can just ^C back to the shell instead of waiting on su to timeout.

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