full-disclosure - Re: Sony: No firewall and no patches

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Message-ID: <439426.30345.qm@web162015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 06:53:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bruno Cesar Moreira de Souza <bcmsouza@...oo.com.br>
To: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	RolandDobbins <rdobbins@...or.net>
Subject: Re: Sony: No firewall and no patches

On May 10, 2011, Dobbins, Roland <rdobbins@...or.net> wrote:
On May 10, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Tracy Reed wrote:

> If you have traffic going out to a high numbered port and you are not keeping state how do you know if that is a
> reply packet to an existing inbound connection or if it is an unauthorized outbound connection?

>> You use stateless ACLs to filter outbound traffic as well, only allowing traffic 
>> originating from required well-known ports to ephemeral high ports.  

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The stateless ACLs would not prevent ACK tunneling (http://ntsecurity.nu/papers/acktunneling/). 

Although your infrastructure would be stronger against DDoS attacks, your environment would be more susceptible to covert channels and backdoors. If the organization security concern is mainly availability, I could agree in deploying a packet filter to protect external servers. However, if an external intrusion or sensitive data leakage would cause more damage to the organization's business or reputation, I would not recommend it. Additionally, the organization may have different DMZ's or external networks with different security levels. 

Regards,

Bruno Cesar M. de Souza

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