full-disclosure - Re: Lulzsec as irc warrior 2.0?

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Message-ID: <4DFDD6EB.1060003@Gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:00:59 +0100
From: Abdelkader Boudih <terminale@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Lulzsec as irc warrior 2.0?

TROLL DETECTED!

a) Not using  complex attacks could be a sign of smartness and the level 
of moronism of the admins! Are you jealous ?

b) And you are not good at it! Are you jealous ?

c)  crowd sourcing and community building is one of the most seeking 
thing currently in this era!

If they are fail trolls as you think, why are you so mad ?
I bet they have more girlfriends and friends than you will ever have!

Regards

Ps: Never send an email before breakfasting, Bon appetit anyway!


On 6/19/2011 11:33 AM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
> I just wanted to make a couple of consideration about Lulzsec, without
> special reason, just because it's crossing to my mind.
>
> a) They are NOT carrying on technically complex attack
>
> Just web hacking and sql injection over a wide set of vulnerable website.
> Nothing so complex i would say, no particularly sofisticated attack has
> been demonstrated or shown. Web hackers with some penetration testing
> knowledge and new kiddies learning by web hacking.
> > From web hacking they get access to user data and often users use the
> same passwords on other systems (email, twitter, facebook, amazon, etc).
> That's the overall complexity of hacking attempt i've read about.
>
> b) They are GOOD at making propaganda
> They leverage web 2.0 and social media to create attention, anxiety
> about their next releases increasing expectation and increasing media
> penetration.
> That's being good at making propaganda leveraging communication tools in
> a clever way.
> They are also in a here where the 'filtering', such as asking with a
> prosecutor mandate to close a twitter account, is highly unpopular and
> investigator tend to keep open the target's social networks accounts for
> intelligence purposes. They got 200k followers!
>
> c) They are GOOD at making crowd sourcing and community building
>
> They leverage the crowd to recruit new wannabe hackers and even simple
> smart powerusers to play with released username and passwords.
> Like anonymous they want people to do stuff under their umbrella.
> They created #lulzsecschool where wannabe and script kiddie can learn
> simple web hacking on real targets.
>
>
> Are they just IRC warriors in the web 2.0 social media era, where social
> media exploitation provide a great set of side-effect?
>
> If they're IRC warriors within some time they will just disappear.
>
> Just think, the leaders before or later will start finding the games
> boring, will get a girlfriend, will start going out with friends rather
> than being twitter/chat addicted.
>
> However now i need to make breakfast
>
> -naif
>
> p.s. i know it's a reduced overview of the phoenomena but that's not a
> full analysis, but it's just an idea crossing my mind
>
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