full-disclosure - Re: Encrypted files and the 5th amendment

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Message-ID: <D09524924BFD1916C26F675B@utd71538.local>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:20:45 -0500
From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
To: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@...merofgod.com>,
	Chris Harries <chris.harries@...icommediagroup.com>,
	full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Encrypted files and the 5th amendment

Considering the fact that the US government no longer believes that the 
Constitution applies to them, I suspect they can do whatever they want.

--On July 12, 2011 4:57:22 PM +0000 "Thor (Hammer of God)" 
<thor@...merofgod.com> wrote:

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> I would imagine so.  Do you know of people actually being prosecuted for
> not turning over keys?  How does the “I forgot” defense work over
> there?
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> From: Chris Harries [mailto:chris.harries@...icommediagroup.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:56 AM
> To: Thor (Hammer of God); full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: RE: Encrypted files and the 5th amendment
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> Yes and people have refused to
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> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Thor
> (Hammer of God)
> Sent: 12 July 2011 17:52
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Encrypted files and the 5th amendment
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> I’m sure many of us will be following this closely:
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> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20078312-281/doj-we-can-force-you-to-de
> crypt-that-laptop/
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> I understand that in the UK, one can be prosecuted for not turning over
> actual encryption keys to .gov -  Is that correct?
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> There’s no reason to think “outside the box”
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> if you don’t think yourself into it.
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> Order “Thor’s Microsoft Security Bible”
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> Timothy Thor Mullen
> http://www.hammerofgod.com
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-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
*******************************************
"It is as useless to argue with those who have
renounced the use of reason as to administer
medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson
"There are some ideas so wrong that only a very
intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell

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