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Message-ID: <CAD6s_XtmDgj25vj-rxY_M+AEUPP461Cqi45SrDf5jsruRsdQ-A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:18:09 +0200
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
To: security@...ossecurity.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft's Binary Planting Clean-Up Mission

I bet Microsoft actually like stating they just fixed yet another severe
bug.
Zero-day fixing is big business, you know....even if "zero" is past a few
"days".

Then again, I just happen to share Thor's point of view.

Cheers,
Chris.





On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:54 PM, ACROS Security Lists <lists@...os.si>wrote:

> Hi Thor,
>
> Thank you very much for sharing your point of view. If Microsoft thought
> the same
> though, they probably wouldn't be fixing these bugs. I suppose they don't
> "understand
> what security really is" the same way we don't. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Mitja
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@...merofgod.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:11 PM
> > To: security@...ossecurity.com; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com;
> > full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; cert@...t.org; si-cert@...es.si
> > Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft's Binary Planting
> > Clean-Up Mission
> >
> > From your blog:
> >
> > "While we know there's still a lot of cleaning up to do in
> > their binary planting closet, our research-oriented minds
> > remain challenged to find new ways of exploiting these
> > critical bugs and bypassing new and old countermeasures. In
> > the end, it was our research that got the ball rolling and it
> > would be a missed opportunity for everyone's security if we
> > didn't leverage the current momentum and keep researching. "
> >
> > I would change that around a bit.  I would say "our
> > self-serving and marketing-oriented minds remain challenged
> > to understand what security really is, but regardless,
> > continue to find ways of trying to convince people this
> > represents an actual security threat. In the end, it was our
> > research that falsely created security concerns and confusion
> > where time was better spent really doing just about anything
> > else, but it would have been a missed opportunity to get our
> > names in the media to sell our security services."
> >
> >  t
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
> > >[mailto:full-disclosure- bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On
> > Behalf Of ACROS
> > >Security Lists
> > >Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:05 AM
> > >To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk;
> > >cert@...t.org; si-cert@...es.si
> > >Subject: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft's Binary Planting
> > Clean-Up Mission
> > >
> > >
> > >Our new blog post describes some recent changes Microsoft
> > introduced to
> > >fight against binary planting exploits. The most recent
> > change was the
> > >removal of a vulnerable COM server on Windows XP which we
> > used in our
> > >proof of concept at Hack In The Box Amsterdam in May.
> > >
> > >Read the post to find out what else is hiding in the "COM
> > server binary
> > >planting"
> > >closet and what to do to get our PoC back to life.
> > >
> > >http://blog.acrossecurity.com/2011/09/microsofts-binary-plant
> > ing-clean-
> > >up.html
> > >
> > >or
> > >
> > >http://bit.ly/qWyKph
> > >
> > >Enjoy the reading!
> > >
> > >
> > >Mitja Kolsek
> > >CEO&CTO
> > >
> > >ACROS, d.o.o.
> > >Makedonska ulica 113
> > >SI - 2000 Maribor, Slovenia
> > >tel: +386 2 3000 280
> > >fax: +386 2 3000 282
> > >web: http://www.acrossecurity.com
> > >blg: http://blog.acrossecurity.com
> > >
> > >ACROS Security: Finding Your Digital Vulnerabilities Before Others Do
> > >
> > >
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