Message-ID: <-4406317894154768146@unknownmsgid>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:09:02 +0100
From: Pedro B <pedro.borracha@...il.com>
To: "Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin@...monwealthcare.org>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	"security@...ossecurity.com" <security@...ossecurity.com>,
	"bugtraq@...urityfocus.com" <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: Re: Microsoft's Binary Planting Clean-Up Mission

Indeed. The same way people who do not know the difference between
"you mind" and "your mind" should be shot.
"common sense"? Not very "common" at all.

Sent from my iPhone 4

On 16/09/2011, at 16:06, "Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin@...monwealthcare.org> wrote:

> Mitja,
> You, unfortunately, did not get it. It is not about Microsoft, it is about you guys who do not make things better but put all you mind in doing things worse. Use common sense in whatever you do. Innovating hacks beyond and above "black hats" does not really help people being more secure.
>
> Mikhail A. Utin, CISSP
> Information Security Analyst
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ACROS Security Lists [mailto:lists@...os.si]
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:54 PM
> To: 'Thor (Hammer of God)'
> Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft's Binary Planting Clean-Up Mission
>
> Hi Thor,
>
> Thank you very much for sharing your point of view. If Microsoft thought the same though, they probably wouldn't be fixing these bugs. I suppose they don't "understand what security really is" the same way we don't. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Mitja
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@...merofgod.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:11 PM
>> To: security@...ossecurity.com; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com;
>> full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; cert@...t.org; si-cert@...es.si
>> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft's Binary Planting Clean-Up
>> Mission
>>
>> From your blog:
>>
>> "While we know there's still a lot of cleaning up to do in their
>> binary planting closet, our research-oriented minds remain challenged
>> to find new ways of exploiting these critical bugs and bypassing new
>> and old countermeasures. In the end, it was our research that got the
>> ball rolling and it would be a missed opportunity for everyone's
>> security if we didn't leverage the current momentum and keep
>> researching. "
>>
>> I would change that around a bit.  I would say "our self-serving and
>> marketing-oriented minds remain challenged to understand what security
>> really is, but regardless, continue to find ways of trying to convince
>> people this represents an actual security threat. In the end, it was
>> our research that falsely created security concerns and confusion
>> where time was better spent really doing just about anything else, but
>> it would have been a missed opportunity to get our names in the media
>> to sell our security services."
>>
>> t
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>>> [mailto:full-disclosure- bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On
>> Behalf Of ACROS
>>> Security Lists
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:05 AM
>>> To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk;
>>> cert@...t.org; si-cert@...es.si
>>> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft's Binary Planting
>> Clean-Up Mission
>>>
>>>
>>> Our new blog post describes some recent changes Microsoft
>> introduced to
>>> fight against binary planting exploits. The most recent
>> change was the
>>> removal of a vulnerable COM server on Windows XP which we
>> used in our
>>> proof of concept at Hack In The Box Amsterdam in May.
>>>
>>> Read the post to find out what else is hiding in the "COM
>> server binary
>>> planting"
>>> closet and what to do to get our PoC back to life.
>>>
>>> http://blog.acrossecurity.com/2011/09/microsofts-binary-plant
>> ing-clean-
>>> up.html
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/qWyKph
>>>
>>> Enjoy the reading!
>>>
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