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Message-ID: <CAExQ7uJCzO5wPL2MYC19Z1_KLnBtGetKvjrEX8MH0LX961_ctQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 21:32:31 -0500
From: adam <adam@...sy.net>
To: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

>>
http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm00754.htm

Did you actually read the link you pasted?

[...] and "criminal penalties *may not be imposed on someone who has not
been afforded the protections* that the Constitution requires of such
criminal proceedings [...] protections include the right [..]

Then take a look at the actual rights being referenced. Most of which *would
be violated* as a result.

In response to 0x41 "This is ONCE you are actually in front, of the
judge...remember, it may take some breaking of civil liberty, for this to
happen... "

No, you're absolutely right. That's the point here. Contempt is attached to
the previous court order, there wouldn't be a new judge/new case for the
contempt charge alone. All of it is circumstantial anyway, especially due to
how much power judges actually have (in both criminal AND civil
proceedings).

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