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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:05:16 +1100
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com>
To: adam <adam@...sy.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

Oh for sure, if it was not for these people really, none of those crimes
wich really did annoy us, would have happened.
So, i am all for them. and what theyre agenda is.
i guess, you just do not abuse things, and expect to be getting away with
it..



On 5 October 2011 14:34, adam <adam@...sy.net> wrote:

> >>Amen to that.  They're not perfect, but the ACLU and EFF are
> probably among our best bets during these times.
>
> Agreed. I know the ACLU gets a lot of flack for stepping on peoples' toes,
> but no matter what their *alleged* agenda is - they've done a whole lot of
> good that would have otherwise never existed. Same with the EFF. It gives,
> even if only a tiny amount, some hope in situations where you'd otherwise be
> completely helpless.
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:26 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:04:40 CDT, adam said:
>>
>> > >>"Good point Jeff, the real question is what does one do to fix it?"
>> >
>> > http://www.google.com/search?q=related:www.aclu.org
>>
>> Amen to that.  They're not perfect, but the ACLU and EFF are probably
>> among our best bets during these times.
>>
>
>
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