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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8k5Es7Twn0rEFWhA3fDxY88pDUx6jCXhjoW3fq1hmhZ7A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:23:53 -0400
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@...il.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand
 that not everybody's been following the rules"

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@...il.com> wrote:
> Except that they weren't obviously unarmed.
>
> Not only where they not obviously unarmed, they appeared to be armed.
>
> Look at the 4 minute mark.
>
> That sure as shit looks like an RPG.
>
> The crew thought the group was armed.  Ergo, they were cleared to engage.
>
> This wasn't a war crime...and the allegation that it was just makes
> people look ridiculous.
Listen to yourself: we weren't sure if they were armed, so we killed
them. Put yourself and your family in the shoes of the dead folks. Its
not a comfortable place to be, is it?

Jeff

> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:44:44 PDT, Mike Hale said:
>>> Seriously!  Think about the injustice of having American helicopters
>>> engage armed individuals shadowing American soldiers.
>>
>> Shooting at "armed individuals" is one thing.  If it's "civilians and Reuters
>> employees" who *aren't* obviously armed, it's something else.
>>
>>
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