Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:38:34 +0300
From: Georgi Guninski <guninski@...inski.com>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand
 that not everybody's been following the rules"

Christian Sciberras,

I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad smalltalk.

Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge?

btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and in addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu.

-- 
joro

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
> 
> No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit. Making
> profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go somewhere
> further in the chain.
> Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that refused
> to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as
> productive.
> Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they
> decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have a
> right in the first place...).
> 
> > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of responsibility
> in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the largest
> share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
> 
> The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a bottle
> of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.
> 
> > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of it,
> most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
> 
> Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway would
> thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things off you.
> Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases, other than
> myself.
> 
> 
> Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more effort.
> For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did legally
> wrong.
> Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The "99%
> protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right wrongs by
> pointing at jailed people.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
> 
> >  On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> >
> > I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get "obscenely
> > rich", but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun of it.
> >
> >  So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
> >
> >  Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of ruining
> > others' for the fun of it.
> >
> >  What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters) are crying
> > out loud against some people they're highly envious of with the excuse of
> > "the depression".
> > Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought about by
> > these same people!
> >
> >
> > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of responsibility
> > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the largest
> > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives for
> > people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blame him.
> >
> >  Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well
> >
> >  How many times in your life have you paid back something you received by
> > mistake and which wasn't yours?
> > While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a wrong, I just
> > can't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the "99%" are
> > big-time hypocrites.
> >
> > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of it,
> > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
> >
> >
> >  On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how some of
> > the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing out names
> > instead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd has been doing up till now?
> >
> > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006
> > **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England
> > **Bill Clinton, former US president*
> > *Gordon Brown, prime minister*
> > *George W Bush, former US president*
> > *Senator Phil Gramm
> > **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist
> > **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's
> > **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group
> > **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss
> > **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss
> > **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss
> > **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive
> > **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin
> > **Lewis Ranieri
> > **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products
> > **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss
> > **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial
> > **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch*
> > *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss
> > **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat)
> > **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister
> > **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07*
> >
> >
> > Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guy
> > http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.html
> > And while he is thankfully spending time in a prison cell, so many other
> > names on this list go free, in fact a good chunk of them made a profit off
> > of the disaster.
> >
> >
> >

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