Message-ID: <4E98E8CC.3010402@oneechan.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:58:36 -0500
From: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand
 that not everybody's been following the rules"

On 10/14/2011 8:21 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> You think I'm biting that?
>
> Skinny and "under-age"  is just about everything you could come up 
> with. Congrats for creativity.
>
> Just because two of you decided you found common grounds for insult 
> doesn't mean you're god-almighty-indisputably-right in every piece of 
> shit you come up with. Did I mention it's shit?
>
> With that, I give you one, you have a point, I should have stopped 
> responding ever since some guy decided to equate a couple dozen of 
> people into America's 1%.
>
> Strange, thought security guys would have been better with numbers...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org 
> <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 10/14/2011 6:32 PM, xD 0x41 wrote:
>>     Cristiano , per favor' mi dai dieci minuti scusa mi ma, e'
>>     essentiale ..
>>     You really dont realise how much, you attack others when they
>>     post, NOMATTER what the topic... yet you are still wondering why
>>     somany people seem to despise your skinny little nerdy ass...
>>     well, nerdy isnt bad, but, your a downright lookalike for mr.Bean
>>     aka rowan atkinson. You could maybe do his stunts, to ?
>>     Your the one who is usually abusing others, before the finality
>>     wich is simply adults not reesponding, to the baby whos crying
>>     out for more aarguements.
>>     You should stfu, and learn more, you assume to know all, in every
>>     post, your the brain, yet you are lame, i looked everything up
>>     abiout you, and yes, go ahead, and setup a nice wordpress secure
>>     setting, php wise to,  then yes, id maybe hink your atleast a
>>     halfwit ;)
>>     Anyhow, your basically a tr0ll, and, you seem to keep goading,
>>     even AFTER the others, have completely stopped responding to you,
>>     simply because, Laurelai was right, why would anyone want to keep
>>     up a thread wich has now turned malign, as i forsaw a week ago,
>>     but, i did not think it would even make a week, People like you,
>>     keep inspiring the flame to burn brighter.. wich to me, is
>>     nastier than any *abuse* names, wich, you clearly have not
>>     counted howmany times you have actually called others, some form
>>     of rude name/word/personal attack.
>>     Maybe when you GROW UP, and behave as an adult, then I would
>>     assume the list will start to hear you, even through the bs.
>>     Anyhow, i applaud you, for *coming out* as to say, I mean,
>>     putting your pic up, like that, mate, you could be a pornstar!
>>     what you doin online :P~~~bahahaha
>>     go back to grade.2 then repeate it, then move on... then, if you
>>     work out how to call 911, call someone who gives a shit.
>>     Idiotic kid, grow the hell up.
>>     xd--
>>
>>     // IND SEC CONSILTANT FOR Yep yep Security (simply coz it sounds
>>     good) YEP YEP for all your Hat attire needs!
>>
>>     On 15 October 2011 08:57, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com
>>     <mailto:uuf6429@...il.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a
>>         much better place without them and whoever said them in the
>>         first place...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai
>>         <laurelai@...echan.org <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>> wrote:
>>
>>             On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>             Resorting to personal attacks? Nice.
>>>
>>>             Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog?
>>>             Defacing a website? Growing pot?
>>>
>>>             I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I
>>>             just tell whoever is responsible to do a fix.
>>>             I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys.
>>>             Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in
>>>             fact, my occupation is quite on the opposite side of the
>>>             spectrum...
>>>
>>>             You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM
>>>             I have contains.
>>>
>>>             But that must make all the difference! I mean, people
>>>             that don't know qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in
>>>             such discussions
>>>             (of course there's wikipedia...)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski
>>>             <guninski@...inski.com <mailto:guninski@...inski.com>>
>>>             wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Christian Sciberras,
>>>
>>>                 I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I
>>>                 have seen is bad smalltalk.
>>>
>>>                 Do you have any technical publications you can share
>>>                 so I can judge?
>>>
>>>                 btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce
>>>                 a bug in a CMS and in addition you can't tell root
>>>                 from user password on vanilla ubuntu.
>>>
>>>                 --
>>>                 joro
>>>
>>>                 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian
>>>                 Sciberras wrote:
>>>                 > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
>>>                 >
>>>                 > No. But it's certainly better than doing damage
>>>                 without profit. Making
>>>                 > profit means that at the end of the day, the
>>>                 money's going to go somewhere
>>>                 > further in the chain.
>>>                 > Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the
>>>                 local bank that refused
>>>                 > to give you a loan because of the time you spent
>>>                 in a cell, isn't as
>>>                 > productive.
>>>                 > Neither is it making a company loose
>>>                 clients/profit just because they
>>>                 > decided they don't want you to use their services
>>>                 (as if you did have a
>>>                 > right in the first place...).
>>>                 >
>>>                 > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a
>>>                 measure of responsibility
>>>                 > in the situation too, human beings are by nature
>>>                 imperfect, but the largest
>>>                 > share of responsibility lies with the names listed
>>>                 below.
>>>                 >
>>>                 > The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush
>>>                 trying to sell you a bottle
>>>                 > of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.
>>>                 >
>>>                 > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid
>>>                 back every dime of it,
>>>                 > most people are decent human beings and would do
>>>                 the same.
>>>                 >
>>>                 > Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people
>>>                 in the NYC subway would
>>>                 > thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they
>>>                 could get things off you.
>>>                 > Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else
>>>                 in such cases, other than
>>>                 > myself.
>>>                 >
>>>                 >
>>>                 > Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just
>>>                 need a little more effort.
>>>                 > For each of those persons, please enlighten us as
>>>                 to what they did legally
>>>                 > wrong.
>>>                 > Of course, the people that landed in jail
>>>                 shouldn't be counted. The "99%
>>>                 > protest" is a modern one committed to change, it
>>>                 just can't right wrongs by
>>>                 > pointing at jailed people.
>>>                 >
>>>                 >
>>>                 >
>>>                 >
>>>                 > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai
>>>                 <laurelai@...echan.org
>>>                 <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>> wrote:
>>>                 >
>>>                 > >  On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > > I simply acknowledge the fact that some people
>>>                 work hard to get "obscenely
>>>                 > > rich", but I just can't stand people that cause
>>>                 damage for the fun of it.
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >  So if they cause damage for profit that makes
>>>                 it ok?
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >  Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his
>>>                 business, instead of ruining
>>>                 > > others' for the fun of it.
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >  What bothers me is the fact that those
>>>                 hypocrites (protesters) are crying
>>>                 > > out loud against some people they're highly
>>>                 envious of with the excuse of
>>>                 > > "the depression".
>>>                 > > Well, here's the news; the famous depression has
>>>                 been brought about by
>>>                 > > these same people!
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a
>>>                 measure of responsibility
>>>                 > > in the situation too, human beings are by nature
>>>                 imperfect, but the largest
>>>                 > > share of responsibility lies with the names
>>>                 listed below.
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >  If someone above is collecting free money
>>>                 because of incentives for
>>>                 > > people to spend money (and which seem to work
>>>                 well), I can't blame him.
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >  Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >  How many times in your life have you paid back
>>>                 something you received by
>>>                 > > mistake and which wasn't yours?
>>>                 > > While I would foremost applaud anyone that would
>>>                 right such a wrong, I just
>>>                 > > can't ignore the fact that those people out
>>>                 there representing the "99%" are
>>>                 > > big-time hypocrites.
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid
>>>                 back every dime of it,
>>>                 > > most people are decent human beings and would do
>>>                 the same.
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >  On a different argument, since you seem to know
>>>                 well enough how some of
>>>                 > > the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you
>>>                 start by handing out names
>>>                 > > instead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd
>>>                 has been doing up till now?
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve
>>>                 1987- 2006
>>>                 > > **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England
>>>                 > > **Bill Clinton, former US president*
>>>                 > > *Gordon Brown, prime minister*
>>>                 > > *George W Bush, former US president*
>>>                 > > *Senator Phil Gramm
>>>                 > > **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist
>>>                 > > **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's
>>>                 > > **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group
>>>                 > > **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss
>>>                 > > **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss
>>>                 > > **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss
>>>                 > > **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive
>>>                 > > **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin
>>>                 > > **Lewis Ranieri
>>>                 > > **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products
>>>                 > > **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss
>>>                 > > **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial
>>>                 > > **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch*
>>>                 > > *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss
>>>                 > > **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking
>>>                 committee (Democrat)
>>>                 > > **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister
>>>                 > > **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07*
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > > Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guy
>>>                 > >
>>>                 http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.html
>>>                 > > And while he is thankfully spending time in a
>>>                 prison cell, so many other
>>>                 > > names on this list go free, in fact a good chunk
>>>                 of them made a profit off
>>>                 > > of the disaster.
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>                 > >
>>>
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>>
>>             Lets keep the discussion above the belt guys ok?
>>
>>
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>     Whats wrong with being skinny? *ducks*
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I was actually talking to Xd as im rather skinny myself :s

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