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Message-ID: <CALCvwp5+7Kq2uQKGsz4qeQ+m50oxZ9Oz2XdmWwKxYO6V+rw4BA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:30 +1100
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Symlink vulnerabilities

and, this is pwning nothing :)


On 26 October 2011 10:29, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:56:24 +1100, xD 0x41 said:
>
> > You can make it bypass Aslr ?
>
> Nope. It can't, because ASLR doesn't enter into the picture. But then, *who
> cares*?  Are you going to make it make it through a passport check too?
> Because
> that's as relevant to this exploit as ASLR is.
>
> > It still must bypass atleast ASLR on vanilla to be called a real poc,and
> be
>
> No. It has to pwn the target.  If it does so without bothering to do
> anything that
> requires ASLR bypass doesn't matter.
>
> Or are you also going to insist that anybody breaking into your house has
> to do
> so by picking the big shiny lock on the front door that says ASLR, and
> they're
> not allowed to use a window, or an air conditioning vent, or a skylight, or
> that old coal chute leading into the basement, or mail you a package that
> opens
> itself inside the house to reveal a robot that opens the front door from
> the
> inside, or social engineering you to demonstrate the awesomeness of the
> lock,
> and sneaking in while the door is open, or....
>
> tl;dr: "Bypass ASLR" isn't the metric for an exploit. pwnage is.
>
>
>

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