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Message-ID: <4EC75750.2040704@fibertel.com.ar> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:14:24 -0300 From: root <root_@...ertel.com.ar> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default On 11/18/2011 11:01 AM, Darren Martyn wrote: > To be honest, while Ubuntu is hardly secure, it is not DESIGNED to be > secure per se. It is designed to wean Windows users away from M$ and toward > GNU/Linux OS types. Kind of a "Linux for newbs". My family went from Win XP > to Ubuntu years ago and stuck with it. I moved on to Debian, they stuck to > Ubuntu and Win7 (eventually) as they are not computer enthusiasts - mere > users. Bullshit, Ubuntu is designed (or at least, was designed) to be very secure, check all the stuff it comes by default: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features Not even the default Debian kernel has all those features activated. If I'm wrong, why you see metasploit modules for Debian but not for Ubuntu? that's the reason. Recently some stupid people got into management (as always happens) and we have things like unity, the fucked up 24-bit ASLR in i386, and this guest account for retards. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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