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Message-ID: <CAJtJjZvDg+8SMcMA5nMkzBRpNm5h5zM3En6AwCJ=zF68KJB1gg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:10:41 +0000
From: Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

Network Manager is the only common thing there (some did not run MadWiFi
drivers), even a default Ubuntu install with NOTHING wierd or wonderful
done to it does the same thing on occasion. Not sure if it may be something
like overheating though, but seeing as this country aint exactly warm...

I hope it works well, there are a fair few of us, and seeing as we have
defined our goals for every "step" in development from 0.1 to 0.5, we know
our precise aims and where things may go wrong. (proper planning and
preparation...)

Also, lolwut? Quarter Nelson?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:12:38 GMT, Darren Martyn said:
>
> >  Valdis - I did not know the source had gotten THAT big, still, will be
> > interesting to explore parts of it that interest me - the TCP stack for a
> > start... Also, thanks for the advice on the book :)
>
> As of this morning, Linus's git tree had:
>
> [/usr/src/linux] find * -type f | xargs cat | wc -l
> 14993265
>
> and we're still at 3.2.0-rc2.  Almost certainly will tip over 15M by the
> time Linus
> lets 3.2.0 escape.  The linux-next tree (which will become 3.3) is already
> sitting at
> somewhere north of 15.3M lines of code.  Yes, we're averaging 100K lines
> of code
> a month.
>
> > Network manager has one amusing flaw I noted on both Atheros and Broadcom
> > chipsets - it randomly suspends the Wireless card, requiring several
> > reboots to fix. I still have to figure it out, and it just annoys me in
> > general. Hence, making my own version of it.
>
> Are you sure it's NetworkManager that's hosing things up, and not the
> driver
> itself?  "card hangs and takes a few reboots" sounds like a MadWifi issue
> rather than NetworkManager - there's a *reason* MadWifi got deprecated in
> favor
> of the ath[59]k drivers. ;)
>
> > Also, thanks for the advice on the mac80211, I was only familiar with
> > MadWiFi as my netbook for wardriving ran an older Atheros card (Acer
> Aspire
> > One from 2008). I will look into the mac80211 as soon as I can, the goal
> me
> > and my friends have is to release a "modified" Ubuntu with our own
> network
> > manager and some other Wireless auditing tools installed.
>
> That's actually a reasonable goal easily achieved by 3-5 motivated people
> in
> their spare time.
>



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