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Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:25:23 +0000
From: Dave <mrx@...pergander.org.uk>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Carrier IQ for your phone

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On 04/12/2011 19:20, coderman wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan J. Wylie
> <shyyqvfpybfher@...ie.me.uk> wrote:
>> ...
>> | Yes, Carrier IQ is a vast digital fishing net that sees geographic
>> | locations and the contents of text messages and search queries
>> | swimming inside the phones the software monitors.. But except
>> | in rare circumstances, that data is dumped out of a phone's internal
>> | memory almost as quickly as it goes in.
> 
> 
> one thing many of these stories seem to miss is that
> these limits assume a carrier in control and acting responsibly.
> 
> if you're under a MitM attack these "not used" features sitting latent
> are now actively acting against your interests.
> 
> similar to CALEA capabilities leveraged for clandestine surveillance,
>  e.g. the Athens Affair...

Whatever the case, the fact that this software *can* monitor and record the I/O (regardless of what it may or may not ignore) of a device means
it should be removed/blocked or fed noise by anyone who values their privacy.

If one doesn't have total control over any device that one uses to process info/data that one would rather not be shared, then who does have the
control and what will they do with that information? Targeted advertising is the least innocuous of possibilities....

But hey, I am talking to a list of people that should know this ;-) Sorry for not telling you something you don't know.

I use a Nokia 6170, must be getting on for 7 or 8 years old now.... battery is getting a little tired.

Take care... watch ya back

Dave





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